Question: Why are you increasing the Missing?

[OZtwo]

The last few months I have noted that I'm missing more and more. So much so I did a fast calculation and based on ammo used by my Opalo in the last year I have put in around 850PED of ammo just in missing.

Date Failed Misses Total Cost
5/1/2011 45 448 493 9.86
6/1/2011 504 3211 3715 74.3
7/1/2011 38 1385 1423 28.46
8/1/2011 53 3191 3244 64.88
9/1/2011 156 1906 2062 41.24
10/1/2011 57 1817 1874 37.48
11/1/2011 82 1823 1905 38.1
12/1/2011 49 6548 6597 131.94
1/1/2012 62 8567 8629 172.58
2/1/2012 44 5184 5228 104.56
3/1/2012 84 7592 7676 153.52

[mastermesh]

I have to admit, I seem to miss a lot too, even on weapons with high ha. I have funny suspicion that the no loots are going to go away and be replaced by more misses, but I'm hoping someone at Mindark can post a reply here and confirm that that is not what is happening.

[Roni]

@OZtwo....

Did you use the fails too in your calcs? As I understood from MA the fails are a result of lag and there is no actual ammo loss.

I don't notice any serious increase in misses. But I didnt do any logging I must admit.

Regards, Roni

[Neil Stockton]

Those numbers don't actually tell us anything. In order to say that misses are increasing, you'd have to show the fraction of total shots that result in misses, and see if that fraction has changed. Also remember that any change in weapon setup will change the miss to hit ratio.

[OZtwo]

Originally Posted by Neil Stockton

Those numbers don't actually tell us anything. In order to say that misses are increasing, you'd have to show the fraction of total shots that result in misses, and see if that fraction has changed. Also remember that any change in weapon setup will change the miss to hit ratio.

Good news, I'm down to only 4056 misses this month which a total loss now at 937.43ped. I'm guessing by my ingame birthday of next month I will get 1,000ped loose in ammo. Will MA buy me a land deed?

Total Misses as of now is at: 45,695
Total Fails as of now is at: 1,178 (504 due to fail bug back in June of last year)

And yes, the joke is that I'm not a heavy hunter..so my loss is small compared to others...

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by OZtwo

Good news, I'm down to only 4056 misses this month

4,056 misses out of how many shots? 5,000 or 5,000,000.

There's an average miss rate that corresponds to skill level and which weapon you use. My initial guess is if you're seeing a real increase in the % of misses (not just more misses due to shooting more) than you changed what gear you're using and using something you aren't maxed on.

[OZtwo]

Originally Posted by JohnCapital

4,056 misses out of how many shots? 5,000 or 5,000,000.

There's an average miss rate that corresponds to skill level and which weapon you use. My initial guess is if you're seeing a real increase in the % of misses (not just more misses due to shooting more) than you changed what gear you're using and using something you aren't maxed on.

Well, of course there is no way to know how many shots I have done since well, that's hard to keep track of. (well hmm)..but anyway..

Looking at the total amount that I have deposited so far 9.57% of that has gone to ammo missing. Mind you the deposit isn't only for ammo..I been buying a lot of cool stuff so do the math here...

So what you are saying is that as my skills go up I will see more missing? And with that, as my skills go up, MA wants me to go to a higher weapons so that at the end I'll spend more money at the end on ammo burn? Or are they already working this out by doing the missing?

[Ze-Tomb Raider]

Originally Posted by OZtwo

Well, of course there is no way to know how many shots I have done since well, that's hard to keep track of. (well hmm)..but anyway..

The entropia tracker client can keep track of your hits, misses & crits.
If you switch weapons during your hunt, then just select any weapon in the interface, all you want it hits/misses right?

[Joat]

Are you sure you really losing something with a MISS?

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by OZtwo

Well, of course there is no way to know how many shots I have done since well, that's hard to keep track of. (well hmm)..but anyway..

Hard, but not impossible. Ze-Tomb Raider mentioned using ET. Also you can simply buy enough ammo to decay your gun/amp.

For example, if you use a korss 400(L) w/A104 amp, there is a set amount of shots the amp can use before it breaks. Specifically, 1,903 shots, using 0.09 ped of ammo/shot on that gun. 1,903x0.09=171.27 so you buy exactly that much ammo for the hunt. Any ammo left over was looted. Just go to Entropedia's weapon page look up your weapon/amp combo, and check the ammo and total uses columns. Just remember to account for finisher weapons too, if needed.

In short, do some research and apply some math, and you can better see what's occurring.

Originally Posted by OZtwo

So what you are saying is that as my skills go up I will see more missing?

No, I'm saying if you were maxed on the LR32(L) but decided to start using the LR48 (L) without maxing it, that would also account for the higher miss count compared to the 32.

Actually as your skills increase, your choices of weapons with good hit ratios increase.