Interesting yet sad.

The NN · 05-01-2012, 15:28

I think it is sad to see how my views are met with such hostile force, some of you say that I say that EU suck and that I complain about it, which is not true, I focus my time on factual intel.

If these exposures of MindArk's system poses a personal threat to anyone out there, then I suggest they stop defending a system that functions like a black money vortex hole in the ground. No wonder you people freak out by my posts, you're trying to defend what can no longer be accepted as an excuse on behalf of MA's buisness model.

If this is all just a dream about making money "Potentially in the end" of it all, then I ask you this, why can't there be left room for thoroughly thought through wares inside the universe, why must more than half of all things be for wimps or TT food?

You now want to tell me that it is meant for skilling, I say why not leave room for a combination of the two?
You say it can't be done, I say enough with the giving up attitude, why do you think MA avoids my posts deliverately?

I will answer that question for you, they see no reason to change a system where people are lame enough to keep kicking themselves to the curve in using it.

A selfesteem based on values of others, that can no longer be an excuse for making buisness in such a manner, will either suffer exposure or feel threatened by the facts about such a system. Simply a feeling of infiriorness combined with what seems as a threat can not stand in the eyes of god, it is the selfish nature in this that is a settled factor of negativity, negativity in forms of selfishness turns into anger, anger released in frustration rather than resolvvevation, is what is called misplaced anger.

You've all been brainwashed with MA's views and system, you no longer wish to put up a fight for your own rights in this, however aiming hostile anger in the direction of the messenger seems to be ok. Misplaced anger born in frustration over the fact that none of the butt kissing with MA pays off, you all want to see change, however not when it poses a renewal to things you already consider to fragile to change.

Frustration is born in the promisses of MA's, yet no change is seen, only more money greedy steps are taken to insure a dull experience that is to costy for the players, resulting in them just standing about milking eachother for every dime on wares of the trade.

I've seen enough buttkissing of MA's butt, the fragile mind who seeks understanding, yet is offered a cold shoulder to cry on, belongs to the users.

I will not be less punctual, I will not be bullied, I will not less factual, I will not be any less me all over, just because you're starting to see your world crumble due to lame choices, I will not tollerate things as they are when I sit with the sollution for all of us, nor will I expose my new system to MindArk or any of you, as long as I sit with a feeling that I will be chewed up and spewed out again. MindArk hacked me, they have showned there gratitude, you are flinging in my face everytime you "sense" a rough patch.

If you can't get the fact that they are exploiting you all, when we could all get along fine, then so be it, but leave me out of it, and stop patronizing me, just because your values no longer stand trial.

Sincerely The NN.

Entity · 05-01-2012, 19:31

ever thought of being a politician? as an older player coming back the main reason iv come back is the pipe dream, the dream that you MAY one time make it big, find something new or explore a new world. ofcourse MA is a black money hole, after all, if a buisness wasnt would it still exsist? i dont know you nor do you know me, this reply is only to state the fact that if you dont like the game then dont play it, it might not seem 'right' that the makers may indeed be screwing us over. However, is it not our choice to be screwed over?

like i said, i came back to the game for the pipe dream of making it big, chasing the global or chasing the hof. if you take any other company and look at what they are doing, micro transactions, releasing bad content but the dedicated players still play it, i may have missed some of your key points, but really... if your unhappy about what they do or what they have done then leave. chip out sell your gear, withdraw your cash and go?

The NN · 05-01-2012, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entity

ever thought of being a politician? as an older player coming back the main reason iv come back is the pipe dream, the dream that you MAY one time make it big, find something new or explore a new world. ofcourse MA is a black money hole, after all, if a buisness wasnt would it still exsist? i dont know you nor do you know me, this reply is only to state the fact that if you dont like the game then dont play it, it might not seem 'right' that the makers may indeed be screwing us over. However, is it not our choice to be screwed over?

like i said, i came back to the game for the pipe dream of making it big, chasing the global or chasing the hof. if you take any other company and look at what they are doing, micro transactions, releasing bad content but the dedicated players still play it, i may have missed some of your key points, but really... if your unhappy about what they do or what they have done then leave. chip out sell your gear, withdraw your cash and go?

You are missing the point here, and changing the topic, read my posts again if it helps.

Sincerely The NN.

Neil Stockton · 05-01-2012, 22:17

I don't think the community is against your ideas. What they are against is your refusal to share your ideas.

Unless I've missed the thread where you give the specifics of your seemingly-miraculous plan for all players to make money in the game, you're just demanding that we all agree with you on faith, without any reason whatsoever. As long as you refuse to give specifics so that there can be a rational discussion, it's really no better than trolling.

mastermesh · 05-02-2012, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Stockton

I don't think the community is against your ideas. What they are against is your refusal to share your ideas.

Unless I've missed the thread where you give the specifics of your seemingly-miraculous plan for all players to make money in the game, you're just demanding that we all agree with you on faith, without any reason whatsoever. As long as you refuse to give specifics so that there can be a rational discussion, it's really no better than trolling.

yep. Speaking in riddles only works for the Sphinx.

Sbi · 05-02-2012, 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by The NN

I think it is sad to see how my views are met with such hostile force, some of you say that I say that EU suck and that I complain about it, which is not true, I focus my time on factual intel.

If these exposures of MindArk's system poses a personal threat to anyone out there, then I suggest they stop defending a system that functions like a black money vortex hole in the ground. No wonder you people freak out by my posts, you're trying to defend what can no longer be accepted as an excuse on behalf of MA's buisness model.

If this is all just a dream about making money "Potentially in the end" of it all, then I ask you this, why can't there be left room for thoroughly thought through wares inside the universe, why must more than half of all things be for wimps or TT food?

You now want to tell me that it is meant for skilling, I say why not leave room for a combination of the two?
You say it can't be done, I say enough with the giving up attitude, why do you think MA avoids my posts deliverately?

I will answer that question for you, they see no reason to change a system where people are lame enough to keep kicking themselves to the curve in using it.

A selfesteem based on values of others, that can no longer be an excuse for making buisness in such a manner, will either suffer exposure or feel threatened by the facts about such a system. Simply a feeling of infiriorness combined with what seems as a threat can not stand in the eyes of god, it is the selfish nature in this that is a settled factor of negativity, negativity in forms of selfishness turns into anger, anger released in frustration rather than resolvvevation, is what is called misplaced anger.

You've all been brainwashed with MA's views and system, you no longer wish to put up a fight for your own rights in this, however aiming hostile anger in the direction of the messenger seems to be ok. Misplaced anger born in frustration over the fact that none of the butt kissing with MA pays off, you all want to see change, however not when it poses a renewal to things you already consider to fragile to change.

Frustration is born in the promisses of MA's, yet no change is seen, only more money greedy steps are taken to insure a dull experience that is to costy for the players, resulting in them just standing about milking eachother for every dime on wares of the trade.

I've seen enough buttkissing of MA's butt, the fragile mind who seeks understanding, yet is offered a cold shoulder to cry on, belongs to the users.

I will not be less punctual, I will not be bullied, I will not less factual, I will not be any less me all over, just because you're starting to see your world crumble due to lame choices, I will not tollerate things as they are when I sit with the sollution for all of us, nor will I expose my new system to MindArk or any of you, as long as I sit with a feeling that I will be chewed up and spewed out again. MindArk hacked me, they have showned there gratitude, you are flinging in my face everytime you "sense" a rough patch.

If you can't get the fact that they are exploiting you all, when we could all get along fine, then so be it, but leave me out of it, and stop patronizing me, just because your values no longer stand trial.

Sincerely The NN.

Your posts don't make sense. I guess that is why MA and players are not listening to you. Until your ready to give more details and answer some of the hard questions posed in various threads here (ohh why soo many threads??) you might aswell stop posting about you 'miracle system'

Entity · 05-02-2012, 07:40

My apologise if you thought I was changing the discussion in your thread, I did infact read it and a previous post aswell about some sort of wares that all I could gather from that is that you wanted ma to put in an object of some kind for players to buy and sell that you couldn't give a reason as ores and en matters are already one of the big ones, my suggestion if you want to make it rich with a free game without depositing which is what I think your point is, is to become a sole trader. Buy low well high make profit take a % of said profit to go into buying more items ores or ens and make your cash. Any new or simple player can do this, or sweat. I head it's a good price

once again correct me if I'm wrong but please be clear, precise and cut to the point and cut out the "I am your prophet" crap. Because tbh when you started with that stuff I skipped over it. Once again please be clear and to the point at what you want.

Thank you the nn
Entity aka pieguy

The NN · 05-02-2012, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entity

My apologise if you thought I was changing the discussion in your thread, I did infact read it and a previous post aswell about some sort of wares that all I could gather from that is that you wanted ma to put in an object of some kind for players to buy and sell that you couldn't give a reason as ores and en matters are already one of the big ones, my suggestion if you want to make it rich with a free game without depositing which is what I think your point is, is to become a sole trader. Buy low well high make profit take a % of said profit to go into buying more items ores or ens and make your cash. Any new or simple player can do this, or sweat. I head it's a good price

once again correct me if I'm wrong but please be clear, precise and cut to the point and cut out the "I am your prophet" crap. Because tbh when you started with that stuff I skipped over it. Once again please be clear and to the point at what you want.

Thank you the nn
Entity aka pieguy

What I need is some support from players who would rather want a system that offers economical stability rather than a high priced gambling session.

The NN.

Entity · 05-02-2012, 22:31

if you can make a game that i put £10 in and have about a 5% chance atleast to make £20 or even 15 il give it a shot. in all my replies do not think for a second that im pro ma, as it stands i play the game because i like it and iv got the cash to burn sometimes, follow your dream mate. its better to have tried and failed then to not try at all. same goes for EU, better to have went a run at the chance of getting an ATH than to have sat near PA and sweat 1k of bottles for 2 ped.

The NN · 05-03-2012, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entity

if you can make a game that i put £10 in and have about a 5% chance atleast to make £20 or even 15 il give it a shot. in all my replies do not think for a second that im pro ma, as it stands i play the game because i like it and iv got the cash to burn sometimes, follow your dream mate. its better to have tried and failed then to not try at all. same goes for EU, better to have went a run at the chance of getting an ATH than to have sat near PA and sweat 1k of bottles for 2 ped.

I have a game where you put 10 U$ in and pull about 11 U$ out on your first session, however you can also choose to make use of your 11 U$ and make even more money.

Sincerely The NN.