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Old 01-23-2012, 17:56   #1
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entering planet: the 2 PED fee

Here is a really noob question and I might have missed an explanation from MA on the reason, but:

Whats with the 2 PED fee when you want to get to the planet surface???

Im not concerned about the PEDs, if you can space travel you sure can pay those...but is there a REAL reason for it? Are there aditional costs for MA and the planet partners to get you on a dedicated server e.g.?

And I would love to see if there is a bit more inworld logic involved...even if there is a practical reason to charge players they could have at least tried to give it some inworld purpose like the NPC's giving out missions to players with, how shallow its sometimes is, a little story on the reason of the mission.

Im really curious.....
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Here is a really noob question and I might have missed an explanation from MA on the reason, but:

Whats with the 2 PED fee when you want to get to the planet surface???

Im not concerned about the PEDs, if you can space travel you sure can pay those...but is there a REAL reason for it? Are there aditional costs for MA and the planet partners to get you on a dedicated server e.g.?

And I would love to see if there is a bit more inworld logic involved...even if there is a practical reason to charge players they could have at least tried to give it some inworld purpose like the NPC's giving out missions to players with, how shallow its sometimes is, a little story on the reason of the mission.

Im really curious.....
I believe this question falls under my department

While I can't tell you if MA has any additional costs for getting people from space to a planet I can tell you about the other things. Before space came out there was the whole 40PED fee to go to another planet by way of TP thing. A percent of this PED was given to the old hangar owners who were currently out of work because of MA getting rid of hangar ship flights. A percent was also given to MA. So, on the realistic side you can say that MA wants to make sure they loose as little ped as possible in the switch from percent of TP travel to open space flights and decay+ammo+fuel just isn't enough!

For a funner answer you can consult my Entropia Universe History Book: http://www.voc.entropiasociety.info/...ewtopic.php?60

Far as my knowledge goes it is currently the only EU history book of its kind. Telling all EU history from the very beginning up to the present both MA and player made. Best of all it tells the history of EU in such a context as to make it seem like a real history that actually happened in the real world. According to my history book the Federal Empire needed a new source of income to help them fight against the robots, since the TP fee was no longer in effect, so they decided to go with a 2PED planet entrance fee to bring in some revenue.
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:14   #3
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as much I admire your reply.it doesnt answer my question.
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as much I admire your reply.it doesnt answer my question.
only MA would know if they have any additional costs in bringing people from space onto a planet. That would be a question for the "Ask MindArk" forum.

The practical purpose of the fees I assume is because of MA wanting and or needing to get additional money from interspace travel as they used to get some from the TP fees of going between planets which is now gone.

inworld logic and story line is my department I observe what MA does and then I make a storyline out of it. At anytime while you play in the game if you find something that doesn't have storyline or any ingame logic then it's time to read my history book. (MA hasn't made an official storyline for alot of things including planet entrance fees. Some storylines don't make sense and need to be rewritten). MA does alot of things that don't make any ingame sense, but I'll piece together what they do and create an ingame storyline that makes sense.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:50   #5
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the 2 peds cost may be related to high stress/temp on your ship that needs to be repaired after each re-enter...

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Old 01-24-2012, 07:54   #6
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only MA would know if they have any additional costs in bringing people from space onto a planet. That would be a question for the "Ask MindArk" forum.

I agree. But Ive a feeling MA is not going to respond on that.

The practical purpose of the fees I assume is because of MA wanting and or needing to get additional money from interspace travel as they used to get some from the TP fees of going between planets which is now gone.

This doesnt make sense...the decay on thrusters, oil usage is allready a source of income. As I pointed out before..Im not bothered about the PEDs, but they could at least make it a bit more real. E.g.: an interplanetary official needs to be paid to fill out paperwork for you to enter the planet. The pop up screen when entering the planets atmosphere could be a NPC asking your papers...orders to check if your vessel is contaminated..

inworld logic and story line is my department I observe what MA does and then I make a storyline out of it. At anytime while you play in the game if you find something that doesn't have storyline or any ingame logic then it's time to read my history book. (MA hasn't made an official storyline for alot of things including planet entrance fees. Some storylines don't make sense and need to be rewritten). MA does alot of things that don't make any ingame sense, but I'll piece together what they do and create an ingame storyline that makes sense.
I have been reading your Entropian history with much interest. It was funny to read about events which I actually was part of, even if my part was somehow small. As for inworld lore...Im fine with the fact that MA isnt putting to much effort in that. I see a lot of creativity amongst Entropians, you included. I run my own small blog on Entropian lore. PM me if you are interested.
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I am wondering why teleporters within a planet are still free of charge
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I am wondering why teleporters within a planet are still free of charge
Teleporters within a planet have always been free of charge

It was teleporters bringing you from planet to planet that had fees. There is still an example of this as CP and FOMA offer TP back to Calypso for a smaller fee (but not from Calypso to them). Also, getting to places, like from Rocktropia to Arctic, don't have fees because the Arctic Zone is part of Rocktropia and on the planet just not connected by land you can walk across.

Charging fees for people to use teleporters on a planet would give MA more money, but it would also turn more people away. TPs are very important for life on a planet so charging a fee just wouldn't make sense. I'm sure if MA started charging fees that at least 50% of players would immediately quit.
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Teleporters within a planet have always been free of charge
Technically, FOMA and CP are considered a part of Planet Calypso and they have never been free TPs.
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Technically, FOMA and CP are considered a part of Planet Calypso and they have never been free TPs.
Ah, but they are exceptions FOMA and CP are part of caly, but they are also out in space. So, technically they arn't on the planet itself and MA decided they wanted money from it Just like Ancient Greece on NI is technically not on the planet because it is in a different place in time, so you need to spend a few ped on a couple time crystals.
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