What's wrong with eco hunting ?

[GullyFoyle]

Ya! that "(Shared Loot)" team are all those rich ubers MA gives everything to, they are the chosen ones, MA's golden boys!

And that "(Shared Loot)" team doens´t just global or HoF on Atrox Queens.... damn lucky bastards.....

[Mac]

thats not right.
the spawn in old sweat camp, 10-20 people were hunting the daikbibas at the same time, and still there were plenty to go around.
on the coords you gave me, after every kill you have to run for 5-10 seconds to get another mob.

Here's a link to a post about wave events. The ones I think he's talking about are all around the PA Shinki Event PA area. Although they are from young to doms in that area.

I did my shinki iron challenge at that PA wave event place. The wave event is every 20 minutes as opposed to the others that are every 30 minutes. There are 195 mobs in those 5 waves. In between waves, you can run around the surrounding area and there's a ton of fast respawning mobs, you will not run out of mobs and you don't have to run far to kill them, then you go back and do another wave. I got a bunch of items off those event mobs, granted, not high markup, but they helped pay for getting it done. I couldn't tell you how much I spent, I really didn't care, but it didn't seem like a lot.

[dementic]

Whats eco about an Opalo?
Even if you would use an A101 many L-weapons with a proper amp have a higher eco. Without an amp an Opalo is even more uneco.
No need to even start talking about the awful killspeed...

if you will make the calculations for damage per pec and the weapon detoriration, ammo wasted per shot, and mob size, you will see its the most eco weapon for what im currently doing.

[Puck]

2 hours on a work day, 12 hours on a weekend day.

to all the other, i will try your suggestions, and will report back.

136 hours / month, at less than $1 US / hr for hobby. Eco or not, that's pretty decent cost for your fun time.

I wish my hockey fees were comparable.

Still, surprised you didn't hit a loot spike now and then. Good luck with getting better returns.

[dementic]

It's all about figures these days i'm afraid.. it always happens when a company gets purchased sold purchased sold etc etc.. stock markets and all that too.

Playing eco now means... you do not qualify as you do not create "figures" if ya know what i mean. Yeah of course we still have the so called "noob hof" and all that but I can tell that things have changed and not for the better for certain types of players/spenders.

edit... what I say here only relates to companies of maybe a similar size of MA, maybe if MA were as big as SONY for example.. then the figures speak for themselves and then they can afford to think more about making players happy.

May I also just add.. during the atrox queen thingy.. I only saw ONE SINGLE TEAM getting on the hof board and they almost had the whole hof board covered at one point.. go figure.

just my thoughts.. there ya go.... I have more but I got beer in fridge and I hate to think of it in there getting all cold.

well, even casinos have certain rules ( which differ by the countries ),
but the lowest payout ( for example, on a slot machine, which invloves no skill ), is at least 65%, and max 85%.

now, since MA is not even pretending to be a casino ( even if it surely feels like one ), where are the odds? why dosent anyone at MA publish the odds for winning/losing?

[dementic]

136 hours / month, at less than $1 US / hr for hobby. Eco or not, that's pretty decent cost for your fun time.

I wish my hockey fees were comparable.

Still, surprised you didn't hit a loot spike now and then. Good luck with getting better returns.

i had 6 globals in the 3 years im playing.
the top one was 237 ped. :\

[GullyFoyle]

if you will make the calculations for damage per pec and the weapon detoriration, ammo wasted per shot, and mob size, you will see its the most eco weapon for what im currently doing.

If you will check "weapon compare" on entropedia you will realize that your totally wrong.
There are a lot of better alternatives with higher damage/pec and much higher killspeed. Don´t know your skills though... and a good amp will be needed ofc....
Your post doesn´t even make sense because when you speak of "damage per pec and the weapon detoriration, ammo wasted per shot" you prove that you dont understand what damage/pec really means as weapon decay and ammo burn is included in damage/pec. What else do you think does damage/pec mean?
But not that I care... You asked a question and I gave an answer. If you think I´m wrong I don´t really care at all.
Good luck for the future because you really need it.

[Mac]

And that "(Shared Loot)" team doens´t just global or HoF on Atrox Queens.... damn lucky bastards.....

zomg they are everywhere 24/7 stealing all our loots!!!111

[Jennson]

hmmm with the given information i doubt you are really on the eco path here. I do't know your evader pro-standing, but a few further thoughts to your set-up:

low dps -> higher defense decay
slow fap -> longer time to kill the mob -> more defensive decay

If i were you i would try the following:

1. use cheap low level armor + maybe low level plates
- it might be cheaper in total defensive cost ( especially when you are looking for high density spawns where 2 or 3 mobs at the same time may attack you ), or argos are mixed in the spawn

2. Use a better fap
-Get a herb box this should be enough for those, but maybe an SK-20(L) for combat situations when there are also medium shinkis in that spawn

3. Get an amp for your Opalo or switch to TT-Shortblade to obtain the same dps ( Greece weapons might also be an option for higher dps )

4. Do runs of at least 1 amp size. Better ~100 ped offensive cost

5. Compare defensive decay to the setup you use now

6. Tweak it to find the setup which gives you the lowest defensive decay you can get

7. Take the Spawn east of PA, it is not taxed.

8. Record your runs to find ped sinks in your setup

This could already help a bit. Good luck

[Coz1969]

TBH, if I were you, I would switch mobs. There are other mobs with similar HP/dmg, etc. Sometimes camping mobs works out, sometimes it doesn't.

When I get in a rut, I often start hunting "the green lines". What I mean by this is that I choose a mob that is well within my skill level, and I look for the green skill lines. If I'm not getting many, I change mobs, rinse and repeat until I find that mob that's giving me the skills. Often, when I do this, the loot follows, it seems.

Eco isn't just using an opalo and no armor... as others have said, eco is getting the most out of your equipment, for a better return. Personally, I think one of the most eco weapons in game atm is the korss400. Until recently, I used it almost exclusively once I reached SIB on it.

now...

OFF TOPIC!!!

While I do realize Mac is having great fun (sorry to spoil the fun) and I cannot tell if some of the posts regarding SHARED LOOT are genuine or sarcastic...

Here's the deal (for anyone who really doesn't know about Shared Loot).

Certain events, and ALL wave events, the mobs are SHARED LOOT. This means that everyone who shot at that mob will get loot based on the damage they inflicted, just like in most team hunts. The difference is, there is no need to create a team. The SHARED LOOT is automatic, and it also displays on global chat as SHARED LOOT team name. (Actually, I think it's Team "(Shared Loot)" killed.. etc etc.)

okay, back in topic!