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    Hatchling
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    Auction Fee

    I have a question about auctions. I've already searched this, but found nothing.
    If an item was sold in an auction, I always thought I would get the fee back. In my Erzverkauf it was so, but now, with a knife has been withheld the fee. If the way? Sorry for my bad English

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    no auction fee is always lost.


    You are using a selling service from MA,
    this service needs to be payed for.
    auction fees can vary between 0.5-100ped, i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    no auction fee is always lost.


    You are using a selling service from MA,
    this service needs to be payed for.
    auction fees can vary between 0.5-100ped, i think.
    That's not fair. I compare it with Ebay, Ricardo and others, is always an auction fees become due when sold. So it is really hard for beginners, because they have to sell certain quantities and only a few low-price items. Just like me.

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    Collect a big bulk instead and sell it all at once.
    Raxxor

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    Hatchling
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    Quote Originally Posted by raxxor View Post
    Collect a big bulk instead and sell it all at once.
    Well, yeah, just what I do with items that only have a small value?
    Such as a dagger Clerc 1a, broken 1Ped residual value? Under no circumstances do I want to throw it in the TT

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    Quote Originally Posted by batmump View Post
    Well, yeah, just what I do with items that only have a small value?
    Such as a dagger Clerc 1a, broken 1Ped residual value? Under no circumstances do I want to throw it in the TT
    Low-markup non-stackable items are probably best sold person to person, rather than on auction. Particularly low demand items like a cleric 1a (which can be churned out by crafters more for skills and bp drops than any markup on the item).

    Try spamming in trade chat at Twin Peaks (or your planet's marketplace if not on Calypso) instead.

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    Yes, twin peaks, I heard about it. Now I need only a possibility, because to get there. It is so far away ... Is there any one low-cost taxi driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batmump View Post
    Yes, twin peaks, I heard about it. Now I need only a possibility, because to get there. It is so far away ... Is there any one low-cost taxi driver?
    For now you can try with running:
    http://planetcalypso.entropedia.info/Location.aspx

    When you get stuck, those guys offer a free rescue service: http://v2.euforces.com/

    Or you can ask people in PA if they can give you a free ride to Twin.

    Good luck

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    probably a little more info than what you want, but here you go:

    Auction Fee estimates:
    Markup - Auction Fee
    0 PED - 0.5 PED
    5 PED - 0.74 PED
    10 PED - 0.99 PED
    20 PED - 1.49 PED
    30 PED - 1.97 PED
    50 PED - 2.93 PED
    70 PED - 3.88 PED
    100 PED - 5.26 PED
    150 PED - 7.47 PED
    200 PED - 9.58 PED
    300 PED - 13.53 PED
    400 PED - 17.15 PED
    500 PED - 20.47 PED
    700 PED - 26.39 PED
    1,000 PED - 33.77 PED
    1,500 PED - 43.26 PED
    2,000 PED - 50.37 PED
    3,000 PED - 60.31 PED
    5,000 PED - 71.67 PED
    7,000 PED - 77.97 PED
    10,000 PED - 83.48 PED
    20,000 PED - 90.99 PED
    100,000 PED - 98.05 PED
    9,999,999 PED - 99.98 PED
    Here's the Exact formulas:

    Auction Fee/Commission = (0.5 + Markup * 99.5 / (1990 + Markup))

    Shop Tax = (Markup * 49.75 / (1990 + Markup))

    Decay on Shopkeepers = 10 Pec per Sale (used to be different - old calculation is still in Entropedia)
    Code:
    Markup - Auction Fee						
    0 PED - 0.5 PED			Markup		Taxes on shops	tax markup / auction markup
    5 PED - 0.74 PED		+5	 	0.12 		0.162162162
    10 PED - 0.99 PED		+10	 	0.25 		0.252525253
    20 PED - 1.49 PED		+20	 	0.50 		0.33557047
    30 PED - 1.97 PED		+30		 0.74 		0.375634518
    50 PED - 2.93 PED		+50	 	1.22 		0.416382253
    70 PED - 3.88 PED		+70	 	1.69 		0.43556701
    100 PED - 5.26 PED		+100		 2.38 		0.452471483
    150 PED - 7.47 PED		+150		 3.49 		0.467202142
    200 PED - 9.58 PED		+200		 4.54 		0.473903967
    300 PED - 13.53 PED		+300		 6.52 		0.481892092
    400 PED - 17.15 PED		+400		 8.33 		0.485714286
    500 PED - 20.47 PED		+500		 9.99 		0.488031265
    700 PED - 26.39 PED		+700		 12.95 		0.49071618
    1,000 PED - 33.77 PED		+1000		 16.64 		0.49274504
    1,500 PED - 43.26 PED		+1500		 21.38 		0.494220989
    2,000 PED - 50.37 PED		+2000		 24.94 		0.495135994
    3,000 PED - 60.31 PED		+3000		 29.91 		0.495937655
    5,000 PED - 71.67 PED		+5000		 35.59 		0.496581554
    7,000 PED - 77.97 PED		+7000		 38.74 		0.496857766
    10,000 PED - 83.48 PED		+10000		 41.49 		0.497005271
    20,000 PED - 90.99 PED		+20000	 	45.25 		0.497307396
    100,000 PED - 98.05 PED		+100000	 	48.78 		0.497501275
    9,999,999 PED - 99.98 PED 	+9999999	 49.74 		0.4974995
    So as you start out at +1 Shops save you roughly 16% as a shop owner vs being an auction seller... As that number grows you start to approach 50% savings, but never quite make a full 50% savings. If these calculations are right, it just goes to show that MA gets about 2x more out of it's cut of auction sales than Land Owners get ouf of shop taxes, and shows that it's cheaper, in the long run, for shop owners to sell in shops than in auction, assuming they can get regular repeat customers.... which isn't as easy to do as it might sound.

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    Hatchling
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    Thank you first for your effort. I have already thought about a shop, but the prices for a shop for me now too high.

 

 
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