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    Exclamation Virtual Casino or MMORPG?

    What is this game about? Is it ONLY about money? If so, why didn't they just call it a virtual casino instead of an MMORPG-FPS? Is that why they always boast about "real-world cash economy"?

    I really want to enjoy this game, but not like it's a virtual casino. I'm really into sci-fi and there aren't many other options that capture it like Entropia does.

    I am capable of depositing, but not every day. How does Mindark expect to keep players at this rate? Is that why everyone plays? Because of money? Is there anyone like me?

    All in all, I worry that the game is nothing but a scam. This is an honest post and I am looking for detailed and reasonable responses. Thank you.

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    For some players, it probably is all about money (just as for some people in RL, life is all about money).

    For others though, the economy is merely one facet of the game, and part of the challenge. One way of 'keeping score', if you will.

    If you need to depositing more than you're comfortable with, you might want to reconsider your style of gameplay.

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    Entropia is open-ended. If you want the game to be all about money, then it can be. If you don't want to think about money at all, then you play it that way, as long as you have enough peds to do what you want to do in the game. You can also set yourself a goal, say deposit 500 ped and no more, and see what you can do with it. I recommend finding a good mentor and exploring as much of the game as you can to see what you like doing.

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    For me it is sometimes a casiono sometimes a game. If I feel like gambling I'm ready to lose huge amounts of peds crafting mining amps on condition or mining with big mining amps. I expect high reward for the high risk I take.
    Others times, most of the time I play it smart, if loot is bad I don't play, if I can't get decent markup from the activity I'm doing I won't do it at all.

    Then there's my exception, events which includes team hunting with my society or others activities I enjoy just for the sake of fun.

    You'll have to invest a lot in this game if you want to make profit, and it will take time and a lot of money, or pure luck. Until you learn how to play entropia you will lose peds, lots of them.

    I recommend you find a society and a mentor to guide you, talk to people and ask them about their experience ingame.

    also return and loss can change very quick been losing for months, then BAAAAAM, a large hof, my ped card all stocked up again.

    feel free to add me ingame for a chat
    Raxxor

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    Thumbs Down Casino

    yep people and actually it really suxx

    Seems like usual depositing people like me are now only paying for the Ubers' Loot -

    I cannot remember anymore when I last got a Hof, it's only small Globals since like 6 months now for me -

    Really thinking about quiting the game now

    MA should take much more care for non millionair - but regular depositing people also.

    Otherwise it will stuck being a true CASINO instead of a fun game......
    remember: noisy kids are music for the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Symphony View Post
    What is this game about? Is it ONLY about money? If so, why didn't they just call it a virtual casino instead of an MMORPG-FPS? Is that why they always boast about "real-world cash economy"?

    I really want to enjoy this game, but not like it's a virtual casino. I'm really into sci-fi and there aren't many other options that capture it like Entropia does.

    I am capable of depositing, but not every day. How does Mindark expect to keep players at this rate? Is that why everyone plays? Because of money? Is there anyone like me?

    All in all, I worry that the game is nothing but a scam. This is an honest post and I am looking for detailed and reasonable responses. Thank you.
    Cause online gambling is prohibited in USA, Europe and Australia? 4 years ago Australia almost banned Entropia.

    Regards, Roni

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleur View Post
    yep people and actually it really suxx

    Seems like usual depositing people like me are now only paying for the Ubers' Loot -

    I cannot remember anymore when I last got a Hof, it's only small Globals since like 6 months now for me -

    Really thinking about quiting the game now

    MA should take much more care for non millionair - but regular depositing people also.

    Otherwise it will stuck being a true CASINO instead of a fun game......
    Change tactics if the current ones isn't working
    Raxxor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roni View Post
    Cause online gambling is prohibited in ... Australia? 4 years ago Australia almost banned Entropia.

    Regards, Roni
    Actually, no it isn't. Australia is one of the most gambler-friendly nations on the planet.
    And goodness knows there's a plethora of actual online casinos offering poker, blackjack, roulette etc around that could have been easily slapped with a ban before they banned an online MMORPG game like EU - and they're all still operating.
    1. The Interactive Gambling Act 2001 doesn't prohibit Australians from using any online gambling site, whether based in Australia or overseas.
    2. The Act regulates the activity of the many many Australian-based online gambling operators.
    3. Foreign companies offering online gambling, while possibly in technical breach of the Act (mostly for not paying relevant taxes and licencing fees to the Australian Government), are in practice, outside the scope of Australian Government's authority.
    4. The major interest of the Australian Government in gambling is collection of taxation and licencing fees from gambling operators - mostly because gambling 'winnings' in Australia are not taxed as income for individuals.
    And our government coffers do very nicely out of gambling activities already. In 2007-2008, the Australian states raised $4.9billion from gambling taxes, over 9% of their revenue.

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    Thanks for the replies. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to try the game out, but who knows what'll happen in my case?

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    it s not gambling, because rules are clear, and it s not "luck" based....

    BUT the reality is ; it s too complex to be played properly... there s no way to know what s going on exactly, and apparently there s a delay between the actual state of the game/economy and the return of activities.
    So supply and demand are not affecting result in live .(imo)
    And there is too much competition.

    of course people say "blablabla" most of them have something to sell , or estate to profit from... they are partners of the game !!
    Some have ten thousands of ped ingame...they won't say something that
    cause people to go elsewhere.(and kill their buisness).

    If you do the "right" thing at "right" time, that does work they say!
    But there s always 50 people doing the same thing !
    Why one loose on all activities,(all fail) and another avatar, with ~ same skills and same amount deposited, keep globaling whatever he s doing?

    Also, why some mine or craft or hunt....15x the weekly demand and keep playing (so they must not loose so much)? that doesn't make sense with "supply and demand"... no demand, they should loose all and quit...but no!
    Also myth of "playing at your level" but even the lysterium or simple 1 xxxx global goes to the pro... (so skilling or not doesn't seem to matter much)

    The only way to make money is to take it from others avatar... simple way is trading ,or buying "land", of crafting rare stuff... (some blueprint are rare,there are only a dozen around).

    The game support some people anyway,cause they are backbone of economy...(mostly based on "L" stuff now)others are "too big to fail" ...if they quit its thousands of dollars gone... the noob they don't care... at best he will take his 100$ or 200 but invested 10x that...see.

    there a few investment left, and anything a bit serious cost few thousands of dollars.
    Anything that may allow you to play without loosing to much, is overpriced!
    They protect their buisness,you know.(but no one know mechanics, so fixing price on "probable" return or "decay" is a big joke)
    Most of globals goes to a few "vets" everyday ...rest to the rich who spend too much, and once in year(if lucky) , the average joe got his 1000-20.000 ped+ (now it s like 3000 is a "big" global)

    So, yes there s always luck of hitting something big, but don't believe them,
    The average players are just here to bring fresh money ...not to win anything..or very rarely!
    Some others play for free or minimal cost for years.... and they yell when a noob hit a nice global.. some own lands, very rare stuff, estates,and they are proud to "never have deposited".(proud of sucking everything else money)
    and not paying their favorite game a cents...

    So when they say "if you know what to do" "if you have knowledge"... dont belive it, that doesn't apply to hunting/crafting/mining (playing) ....but to "trading" (buisness). even high levels with uber stuff don't know why they global or not today...rare stuff could be source income,but again,no way to know when it drop, and if you will get it.
    They are tons of people playing for years,

    There are few "heroes" everyday,nobody really knows why he hitted something big.
    Also if you have enough money, you get your money back "one day" ... but most can't sustain the cost and never see that "one day ".

    If you want to play free, do like the f****,who bring nothing and take everything... buy 10.000ped+ of stuff 2/3% under MU everyday and resell it..
    It s 200-300 ped everyday, some even take the money out, and that s why we have to play at 50% return with no global.... to feed all the traders and non-gamer community that just care about money.
    Keep in mind some big company play here.

    The average player/gamer is the big fool of the game, the one who deposit small amounts, who buy everything at 1XX% .... got 50-90% return, and have to sell his stuff in low quantities, and quick...
    Hunting,crafting,mining at average level is a scam.... except if you play with others money, gathered by trading, or overpricing your production, (the high level finder amplifier crafters have no reason to offer best price, they are only a few who craft this, and they are not in hurry to sell).
    If there was a way "to win", by playing 'craft hunt mine) ...then some would do it... and nobody does it .... they are all trading , or owning something that does bring money everyday.
    (there are probably a few "niche" ,but nobody will tell,and most require high level gear,now...new accessible "niche" get overpopulated very quiclky )
    Last edited by tribalart; 06-07-2014 at 00:47.

 

 
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