Top50/100 list managed my Mindark

[remontoire]

Just do like I do ... upload your skill scanner results to Entropedia on a regular basis, and you can get that list easily.

[Lazz]

Originally Posted by T79x

more passionate ? chipping is low cost skilling (time and money saver)
its nothing more than LEGALIZED cheating
got passion for it skill it yourself

Im with T79 here
Easy come easy go if u get my point

[Joat]

Originally Posted by JohnCapital

I have to agree with Hijackers reply. I would submit that those who do buys skills are even more passionate about the game then those that don't.

Prove me wrong.

As for the idea itself, I would expect it to show simply names, not the actual total skill count. That option would make folks a lot more comfortable with being on it. (Someone if position #49 may not mind showing their name between players X & Z, so long as their total skill count isn't there.)

Though if such a list is created, I'd expect quite a bit of new recruiting efforts to be aimed toward those who've remained under the radar.

It depends on what kind of purpose the list gonna have.
If we ask several players, we probably get several type of answers.
For some it is probably more interesting to see what amount the nearest player
has, both above and below themselfs.
For others, it might be more interesting to see name of those above and below,
and for some both value and name are interesting.
I guess they could do a list where we have option both on name and skills,
maybe even the attributes.
Another alternative could be to only show info for those on FL, but I
doubt that all info gonna stay among those at FL only thou'.

[Mariko]

Would be fine with me such a list, provided there is an option to decline being on the list.
Make it part of the Hall Of Fame, like in many other games.

Originally Posted by JohnCapital;2579280I would submit that those who do buys skills are even [I

more[/I] passionate about the game then those that don't.
Prove me wrong.

Well you asked for it whahaha

No your dead wrong here, buying skills and chipping them in like mad is the result of an ego trip.
Would call it the ‘Wanna-be-uber-in-one-day.’ trip.
But that is the choice of that person.

To me a person is more passionate about the game, when he/she logs in everyday.
Plans his/her hunts or mining trips careful using all the information he/she can get.
Then goes out for hours on end to skill and have fun. I know quite a few
people who could have chipped in and ended up in the top societies. But they chose, like me, to skill up naturally.

Basically what you saying is, that a guy buying an pile of condoms, must be a good lover.

Or an rich guy buying his Ferrari, is more passionate about the Ferrari
then that old guy saving for one for ages and knowing all the ins and outs of the car.

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by Mariko

No your dead wrong here, buying skills and chipping them in like mad is the result of an ego trip.
Would call it the ‘Wanna-be-uber-in-one-day.’ trip.

To me a person is more passionate about the game, when he/she logs in everyday.

But what about those players that do both?

And in general, the ones who buy lots of skills log in a lot in order to use them. (There are some exceptions of course)

[Neil Stockton]

Part of the difference of opinion here is that the "game" means different things to different players. Some are interested in the journey from newbie to uber and others are interested merely in smashing others with their massive skills. Others like the social aspect, or just like to explore, and for others the "game" is the challenge of making as many peds as they can without depositing a pec. So people who might be equally passionate about the game can have very different modes of play, i.e. chippers or non-chippers, because their passions are for different aspects of the game.

[Hijacker27]

I don't see the difference between buying a huge UL gun and losing PED skilling with it to get skills, and buying a shitload of skills to use a huge gun UL economically.

Skills is just a measure of how much PED you've spent really. A person could play 8 years skilling all day with a small gun and not even have combat sense while another player could be using a mod merc from day one for only a year and have kill strike already unlocked.

Both are very passionate because they've found that EU is worth their money. Some are passionate because they enjoy getting by without depositing. Doesn't make anyone better or worse than each other, they just have different goals and different ways of doing things.

[Magyar]

I think the issue most people have with equating chipping with passion for the game is alot of us have seen folks spend like mad, chip in tons of skills, and burn out within 3 months.

Yeah, theyre level 30x Engineer. But the pain of dropping 50,000 PED in skill chips and grinding away BPs for no return shoo's them away from the product.

It's not that chipping is bad, or skilling up economically is bad. Socializing, chipping, or clawing your way up all accomplish the same goal --- they get you a place within the game society. Many folks however doubt the dedication of folks who lean heavily on chipping, though, because of the high failure rate of this strategy.

[Pauhe Gunor]

Originally Posted by Kim|MindArk

I dont really have any objection to a system like this as long as it is optional for each avatar and the default setting is having it disabled. I will speak to my dear collegues and see what they think about this.

Cheers

if the system is going to be eligible to bypass then there is no point in having the list in place as it will not be a True standing.

It would be just like having the top 50 Society list and your soc has the option to not be listed in it or seen.

to me it seems like your wasting your time Kim if your wanting to put a system in place that has the possibility to return false data in some respect.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by Pauhe Gunor

if the system is going to be eligible to bypass then there is no point in having the list in place as it will not be a True standing.

Then how about simply having a "Do not show my name" option, which would then still display your total skill count and position but not name?

That would allow people to be anonymous while still making all positions be correct.