VSE Tools

[Roni]

Originally Posted by Stave Petty

Roni, sweat is used in creating welding wire

Ahhhh yes, I took your remark a bit to the letter
Kinda got me confused

@Aeon: imagine sweat being the most valuable good in the universe...rofl

Roni

[FlorencioNineWind]

Originally Posted by OZtwo

Oh, don't give MA this idea. What you are suggesting is that we do away with the free VSE tools and go with full (L) or (UL) VSE tools which would need to be replaced or repaired which of course would then cost the players more money just to keep the tools up to speed. Nine, you have killed sweating!

You didn't read my post "The VSE tools would be the same as the first except in the areas of range and amount per pull." MA would give players complimentary VSE tools in a loot box when they reach the certain levels that are undecaying and have a TT of 0.00 just like the first one. And if you mean to say that I kill sweating by making it easier to gain sweat faster, well, just read my post again. "MA could give us a MK II when we reach SG level 25" Even if you do ALOT of sweating it will still take at least 1 year to reach SG level 25 if not longer. I'm still SG level 16 By that time if people havn't already quit or started depositing I don't think it'll matter if they go from 1-4 bottles per pull to 2-6. Also, the sweat price can't really get much if any lower anyways. Many of the older sweaters (like myself) don't even bother selling sweat anymore and just let it pile up in storage. Giving more sweat tools would make older sweaters like myself feel as though they have actually gotten somewhere with their sweating

[FlorencioNineWind]

Originally Posted by 1coolboy8

rofl not think sweat prices at a all time low never mind bringing something dumb like this out? after the auto tool sweat prices dropped now you want the to drop more? wow.... sad

Read the post I gave to Oz. It's not too difficult to think

[FlorencioNineWind]

Originally Posted by Roni

As much as I appreciete Florencio's input, I don't think it is gonna work due to a couple of reasons

* the sweat market is allready saturated, players have been harvesting in the past, either for market reasons or buying from new players out of philantropic reasons. The reserves are quite mindbogling
* use for sweat has greatly diminished with the introduction of vehicles (less need for teleporting) and synthetic Mind Essence (heal and elec chips)
* with the reasons previously mentioned and the fact that MF skilling is one of the hardest and non eco way to skill....the incentive to go that road is quite low. Not to mention that the first investment is quite high.
* sweating has never been ment by MA to be a steady course of income. On a personal note: kuddo's to them who made it as non-depositers...you guys sure have some stamina
* thus adding more sweat to the allready saturated market will only make DROP the price more

Read the post I gave to Oz. And, if the incentive to become a proffesional sweater is low then there is even less of a chance for people to actually get these items. They would of course be untradeable. I'm a sweater because I can't deposit and I've decided that I enjoy sweating Overall the sweat market wouldn't change at all.

[OZtwo]

Originally Posted by FlorencioNineWind

You didn't read my post "The VSE tools would be the same as the first except in the areas of range and amount per pull." MA would give players complimentary VSE tools in a loot box when they reach the certain levels that are undecaying and have a TT of 0.00 just like the first one. And if you mean to say that I kill sweating by making it easier to gain sweat faster, well, just read my post again. "MA could give us a MK II when we reach SG level 25" Even if you do ALOT of sweating it will still take at least 1 year to reach SG level 25 if not longer. I'm still SG level 16 By that time if people havn't already quit or started depositing I don't think it'll matter if they go from 1-4 bottles per pull to 2-6. Also, the sweat price can't really get much if any lower anyways. Many of the older sweaters (like myself) don't even bother selling sweat anymore and just let it pile up in storage. Giving more sweat tools would make older sweaters like myself feel as though they have actually gotten somewhere with their sweating

Yes, I got that, but MA will see it another way...they will make new BPs and add repair and/or limited items..now this is MA we are talking about here.so don't give them ideas!

[FlorencioNineWind]

Originally Posted by OZtwo

Yes, I got that, but MA will see it another way...they will make new BPs and add repair and/or limited items..now this is MA we are talking about here.so don't give them ideas!

If they make the higher grade VSE tools L, or needing repair, then we won't use them. Simple as that Technically, you would actually gain fewer skill gains per unit of time when using the higher grade VSE tools because of draining the mob faster and not getting as many clicks off it. Therefore, many people who got them probably wouldn't use them anyway