Spartoline!!freeing the sweat slaves!

Sparticas · 06-27-2012, 17:12

SPARTOLINE FORMULA TO FREE THE SWEAT SLAVES ENMASS.
(O+S)/R=F For all vehicles.
Oil+Sweat in a Refiner=Fuel Should be put in all vehicles to put sweat buyers on the streets again. Vehicle useage would diterman price of oil and sweat but we would at least have buyers again.

This was Brought to ND's attention by me. when valks came out that is when he came up with the Idea of sweat in the BP's IE:Creative Juice. now i don't want ND and MA or any of the Planet Partners to sweep me and my idea UNDER THE RUG. I will be starting a ADvert Camp of some sort to drum up support for this. the way things are going i'm getting put in a hole with all the Bp's and being ignored. I don't think it is fair for MFGers that make things to take the brunt of the cost and it should be spread out and sweat should be used by all again!! FREEING THE SWEAT SLAVES!! SPARTOLINE!!!
PLZ PRESS THE LIKE BUTTON TO SHOW SUPPORT OF THIS FORMULA.

raxxor · 06-27-2012, 19:29

With other words add another fee for using vehicles so sweaters can make more peds?
I don't think that would be acceptable.. but if MA made vehicles run on sweat instead it would be better for all players.

the1lovelyhope · 06-27-2012, 20:03

I don't think Spart was implying another fee, just simply suggesting that sweat and the abundance of it, would benefit all in Entropia Universe, whether the manufacturer, the traveller, and the avatar acquiring the sweat. Yeah maybe they should come up with some new vehicles that would require the use of this new synthetic oil lol...There is just soooo much sweat and no purpose for it really. Just a way to utilize the sweat efficiently. It is fair for all, and would create a balance.

mastermesh · 06-27-2012, 20:20

yes, nerfing vehicles for sweat prices to get better seems a tad silly. If the turbo boost that this offered made the vehicle 10x faster, maybe it'd be ok though... but leave oil costs for regular transport as is.

Another alternative idea... folks keep griping about pvp space, and I am one of those folks, lol. Why not make the tp chips that already use ME allow transport through space with an additional cost in sweat... and/or make the level I chips allow you to jump to level II distance by adding x amount more sweat to the jump's ME cost, etc. Hell I'd pay a little extra for a TP to home option on a level I chip, but can't justify buying a level III chip just to get that option at the cost that chips are now.

Sparticas · 06-28-2012, 00:55

Better than Rocket Fuel!! Bet on it!!

Sparticas · 06-28-2012, 01:02

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Originally Posted by raxxor

With other words add another fee for using vehicles so sweaters can make more peds?
I don't think that would be acceptable.. but if MA made vehicles run on sweat instead it would be better for all players.

Well there is no extra fee if you go sweat it yourself now is there it is called being social and helping with PR Word of mouth is the best bang for the PR. you will never prove othewise. If your above slumming with sweater then yes pay for the sweat but everyone should do there fair share one way or the other.

Sparticas · 06-28-2012, 01:37

Could even call it Pangunite. Pan Gu, said in Chinese mythology to be the first living being who created the world by separating yin from yang (forming the earth and sky)

Roni · 06-28-2012, 08:09

This is an old idea. Many before allready suggested to make some boost fuel with sweat. Its not going to happen.

There are some BPs that require sweat and sweat is a welding wire component. As said many times before: the market on sweat is quite saturated and I dont see that change in the near future.

I strongly oppose to this whole idea. Basicly it means depositers will have to pay for something that is basicly free or they will start sweating themselves. Which will be an income loss for MA an PP. No decay.

As for *sweat slaves*...pple do that out of free will..nobody forced them to sweat. So I think slave is not a good definition.

Regards, Roni

Sparticas · 06-28-2012, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Roni

This is an old idea. Many before allready suggested to make some boost fuel with sweat. Its not going to happen.

There are some BPs that require sweat and sweat is a welding wire component. As said many times before: the market on sweat is quite saturated and I dont see that change in the near future.

I strongly oppose to this whole idea. Basicly it means depositers will have to pay for something that is basicly free or they will start sweating themselves. Which will be an income loss for MA an PP. No decay.

As for *sweat slaves*...pple do that out of free will..nobody forced them to sweat. So I think slave is not a good definition.

Regards, Roni

Well this idea started the day that valks came out. I was ROTM on Rocktropia that same month. So unless one of the Dev's had the Idea before me or some of the test group, I have seen no proof of this and would love to see what info you are basing this on.

Now as far as Depositers having to pay for sweat. Your wrong you choose to pay for sweat instead of taking part of the social mechinizm built into the game that makes it really and when you can't find buyers on a planet that breaks the tool for word of mouth and the social aspect of it. Not about A depoer being above sweating. We all shyt and piss in the same fish bowl. Your not any better than anyone else to take part in something that is Basic function in the game. What effects one has effects on the others.

As far as a income loss you can not pay for the kind of word of mouth advertizeing that sweating creates through the grape vine. It's the Most cost effective advertising there is hands down no competition, That argument is a none starter.

I think slave is a good Def of it. Just because they change the dynamics of slavery from no pay to a taxation system still makes it Slavery. Just one is more Insidious. Still slavery.

Roni · 06-28-2012, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Sparticas

Well this idea started the day that valks came out. I was ROTM on Rocktropia that same month. So unless one of the Dev's had the Idea before me or some of the test group, I have seen no proof of this and would love to see what info you are basing this on.

Now as far as Depositers having to pay for sweat. Your wrong you choose to pay for sweat instead of taking part of the social mechinizm built into the game that makes it really and when you can't find buyers on a planet that breaks the tool for word of mouth and the social aspect of it. Not about A depoer being above sweating. We all shyt and piss in the same fish bowl. Your not any better than anyone else to take part in something that is Basic function in the game. What effects one has effects on the others.

As far as a income loss you can not pay for the kind of word of mouth advertizeing that sweating creates through the grape vine. It's the Most cost effective advertising there is hands down no competition, That argument is a none starter.

I think slave is a good Def of it. Just because they change the dynamics of slavery from no pay to a taxation system still makes it Slavery. Just one is more Insidious. Still slavery.

I merely stated that I dont like the idea. And I dont think MA will like it either. Ofc Im not an employee with MA so call it an educated guess.

I dont look down on sweaters or non depositors. Yes, we share the same *bowl*. But as a pragmatic person I have an hard time to see the point of increasing usage for sweat atm. Regardless what MA claims they will change in the future.

FYI: some BPs on Arkadia and Cyrene use sweat. I even had the odd experience witnessing a crafter yelling to buy sweat and no one was there to sell. The poor sod had to go back to Caly to buy I think.

Clicking the toggle auto use tool in a video game is NOT slavery. Comon...I do agree on some stuff you said about the social part yes and the mouth to mouth advertising....but I wont tell friends of me to download EU and go sweat for weeks....I would be taken away very soon in a straight jacket.

Regards, Roni