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Old 12-13-2007, 15:47   #49
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Originally Posted by Rayne Jade View Post
For some I am sure looting was great, for the majority it seems... not so much. I am sure the "upper class" of EU has no problem gathering 3 people with ML-35's. Again, not so much for the middle / lower class. As far as the markup on the Boar feet... That is what made a bad situation so much worse. Too many people were taking advantage of the situation we were all in. Every player (except the PoE owners which got the feet for free and I agree that they should have btw) needed to get footguards. It appeared as if once someone got their footguards it was a case of "I've got mine! Sucks to be you... and now you are gonna pay for it!" Suddenly the desparation to aquire this new armor piece was forgotten. I have always said, it is not a question of if you could get a high markup for them, it is a question of SHOULD you.



Falx are uber mobs... designed for the upper class. I had Boar armor. Since I will probably never be able to kill a Falx I saw the writing on the wall and switch armor sets. I addressed the markup earlier.



I think it is great that you were successful, I really do! Gratz for all that. For the vast majority that luck was not realized.



I think the opportunity missed was for the community to come together and trade these armor parts for REASONABLE prices. MA probably looked at this as an experiment to see how we as a group would react. We showed them that while we complain loudly about an unpopular change, we will not actually do anything to tip the scales back in our favor. We all lost 1/7 of our protection. Some fortunate players were able to gain that back rather quickly. The ones that were not so fortunate got screwed by MA and again got screwed by the ones that looted these armor parts. Basically, MA now has evidence that while we make numerous threads about strikes and protests we are pretty much full of sh*t - nothing will ever come of it. They can now introduce neck guards next month and while there will be threads about the injustice of MA to take away protection again, the greater injustice will happen within EU by the resellers and fortunate few that loot those parts.



It was not handled correctly by MA, but there is plenty of blame within the player base too.



Again, the mention of profit. In this case however, I feel it is profitting at the expense of others - price gouging, whatever you want to call it. It is no different than charging $5 for a bottle of water after a hurricane rips through your town. We had a chance to find the solution within ourselves, but the fortunate upper class did not think about the plural form, they thought singularly - not ourselves, but "myself".

Just my opinion of course... certainly this foot guard issue has changed how I view the community, particularly the names I saw (and wrote down) posting footguards in the auction for totally rediculous prices. I guess it is my own fault for starting to play too late, not having the required skills and equipment, and not being willing to pay whatever it took to "make me successful".



I agree with this - I was not intending to flame you Avery - not at all. Just posting the point of view from the lower class looking up. It is now, and will forever be, a case of the "haves" and the "have-nots". We simply cannot compete with the upper class for the good loots and items. We instead must be willing to deposit huge sums to bridge that gap.

Let me get this straight... You got surprised that this time people wanted as much as possible for the parts they looted? Supply and demand is the same on these as anything else ingame, if MA dont drop enough (+ in this case force people to have to get these parts faster than could be desired=main problem imo) they will cost "alot more than tt".

If you looted eon arms tomorrow im pretty sure you wouldnt put them in auction for +2k, yet there are alot of people with eon that dont have the arms since very few were ever dropped compared to other parts (extreme example i know), how is that different since they also "need" this part?
And how do you propose to distribute the footguards? If someone loots 5 sets they should sell them cheap to 5 different people that then are free to do whatever (i.e. resell them for profit or keep)?
I like your idea i really do, and in a perfect world communism would probably also work... But were talking humans here, there is no such thing as perfect when it comes to homo sapiens.
So please, blame MA for this all you want, but blaming players for how the game/economy (and the rl world as well btw) works (and has worked since PE/EU started) might be a little misguided in an RCE "universe"...
I.e. if youre disillusioned by this you didnt really have a big clue on what was going on economywise ingame in the first place, people are nicer and help eachother out more than any other game ive ever seen, but giving away money they do just as little as you see people handing out bills on streetcorners irl)...

(above post goes towards how the market works only ofc and is in no way related to the way MA handeled the bringing of footguards ingame, merely answering Raynes "attack" on the playerbase which i highly disagree with)
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