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Originally Posted by the-unknown
Check out the Jargon File :
I have checked keyloggers / trojans and have traced it back to the origin / control servers. I know how to decompile programs and understand what they do. I can code my own tools and programs, and understand what a system is supposed to and not supposed to do normally. I have worked to reduce the problems faced by the average person accessing the internet or using the computer.
I am a hacker in the oldest sense of the word.
http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
Crackers are those who use the skills for reasons other then for the sake of knowing. (not ethical).
http://catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html
And there are script kiddies.
They have no clue as to how to code. They download all these ready made tools and use it claiming it as their own, or only able to modify it slightly to claim as their own. For example the Sub-7 class of malicious programs have so many variations due to lots of script kiddies making slight modifications to the base code to call it their own.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/script-kiddies.html
Most of the so called "hackers" you meet now are script kiddies. A few are crackers.
Very few are the real hackers as it was meant originally when the word was first used.
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I agree with most of what you said but your definitions aren't quite the "accepted" definitions as I meant them.
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Cracking: Removing copyright protection from copyrighted software. Commonly used to obtain software without paying for it. Cracking is not by inserting a false or used serial number, but to insert other documents and files into the actual program to make it seem like it was registered by a paying customer, when it actually wasn't.
Hacking: Hacking is the gaining of access(wanted or unwanted) to a computer and viewing, copying, or creating data(leaving a trace) without the intention of destroying data or maliciously harming the computer.
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What you said about hacking (good vs. bad) is true, "good" hacking is done by I.T. security enthusiasts all the time to find out where the holes in their systems are, in order to patch them up and protect from being compromised.
And well, what else can you say about s'kiddies? They're smut. They have no knowledge of the code they downloaded. They're the equivalent of a 15-year-old behind the wheel of a Ferrari F40. Sure, they can start it, but they have no respect whatsoever of the skill requirements and ramifications of what driving such a vehicle has.
In my experience, the majority of "real" hackers of the world aren't going to broadcast their knowledge publicly, they have their private forums and IRC channels and that's the only place you'll find them "bragging", so-to-speak. One of my friends is one of the best hackers I've ever met, and he never went about telling everyone he was a hacker.

It's nice to have such contacts, though.
