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Old 12-20-2006, 16:11   #32
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And doesnt that mean that resellers infact have very little power over the price?
I've addressed this point so many times - it makes my head spin around. go look further up this thread. there are examples of what can be controlled and manipulated. it happens. you can pretend and deny it all you want, but it will not change the reality. if you cannot cite an example how why it is impossible for resellers to exercise and succeed with manipulation tactics then please stop adding noise to the conversation.

of course, you could be a reseller whos just spreading a little disinformation to confuse the unaware.


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The word manipulation is normally used in situations where tactics are used to decieve people. Since nobody is decieved, a better term would be simply market control.
bah. semantics. of course, they're deceived. information is intentionally obscured. anyway, check your dictionary - manipulation is control. manipulation is void of any morality. in fact, the subtile difference between manipulation and control is that manipulation traditionally involves a physical hand being involved.

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Who decides who is stipid and who is not? Isnt ANY markup you pay stupid? So isnt everyone in EU stupid then?
grow up and study some economics. nobody complains about a fair profit. the soft word is "fair". nobody is going to argue with a 30% markup. 200% they will. note that we're talking about a commodity, here, so don't go off on some tangent.

no, not every one in EU is stupid - but there are quite a few of them. these are the people the parasites feed upon. some of them will always be stupid, but some of them only need a little education to not fall into the trap.

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You simply cant blame the current markup of items on stupidity. Simply because we are not in the position to decide what is stupid and what is not.
stop generalizing and putting words into my mouth. I'm not talking about markups. I'm talking about manipulation and the subsequent artificial markup on some items.

in particular, the thread is about how this effect has helped any particular individual - which could be you. but, you seem to believe that this condition does not exist. so, as such, you should have nothing to say.
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