[AkiranBlade]

Originally Posted by Witte

There is btw a more simple way to get lower then 12 damage, by simply using a crappy melee weapon (TT PF for example)

Then you can get 100% definate proof.

lol of course, I wasn't thinking laterally there hehe. TT pf does Imp. and Elec. though so you would still have to try something like Shogun for the test to work.