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Old 08-14-2007, 09:37   #70
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Originally Posted by KeynesAlley View Post
I've read those posts/threads too.

What I've seen is that those were about the scammer breaking the EULA or some other official rule as part of the scam.
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Perhaps, but not every case is an obvious breach of the EULA. It is far better to suggest that everyone writes a support case if they are scammed in case they can get their items back instead of telling them that they will never have a chance of getting something back.

It is rare for someone to receive things back from MA as certain requirements must be met first, but it is misleading to suggest it is impossible.
Indeed it is.

MA do care - but they are still obeyed to follow Swedish law. When there are scammers operating, they do break the EULA just by the fact that they're breaking:
16:c (EULA). You cannot interfere with any other Participant's ability to enjoy the Entropia Universe according to its rules.

What MA in fact does, is to earmark participants who cannot behave. If enough valid support cases comes in, they can and will act upon that according to the EULA - it happened before. But MA can't ban people just because one or two claims of scamming comes in. But they do investigate if the scamming is continuous and documented.
Again: take screenies, note time place and avatar name.

But I can see the need to get some perspective on MA's role in this matter:

If you loose, say your Pixie and your Opalo to a upgrade scammer you've lost lets say 20 ped. What we're talking about then is 2 $.
Try this: Run into the nearest police office, screaming bloody murder, and demand that the person who stole your 2 bucks will be punished and in prisoned. Do you seriously believe you will get help based on that?
It's a petty theft, and there are far worse issues to deal with. You have to protect yourself by using your common sense. Furthermore the money you used are most likely sweat money - which you got for free (from depositing players). So, in fact you've lost nothing. The time you've spent sweating is not a job, it's what you choose to do in game to try it out.
This may sound really tough to some of you - but I think it's important to get the fact straight here. Of course it's bad to get scammed - but please consider what role you have, and what role MA's got - before you scream bloody murder.

But do report scammers to MA. This is a typical answer you might get when reporting a scammer:

Thanks for reporting this to us. You did exactly the right thing and it will help us to ear mark participants that engage in scamming activities.

Unfortunately these unscrupulous characters do exist within the Entropia Universe and we must remind you to always remain vigilant for these types of participants. Always double check before closing a deal.

MindArk are committed to making the Entropia Universe an enjoyable experience for all and we thank you for helping us to reach that goal.

Regards,
Entropia Support



I can assure you that MA's got no intention in getting the reputation to run a game which is an easy target for scammers. That would be a dead end for any business company.
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