new VU - decent! - Page 5

kygon · 05-21-2008, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Dreamdancer

Considering the past version updates I experienced so far (and being a developer, i know what can be done), these two sentences are EXACTLY what I think about MA's update strategy.

Sorry, I really believe they are trying hard, but the whole process should be rethought. They mess it up far too often.

Regards,
DD

believe me there have been some really bad fucked up VUs in the past, even in my 3 years I've seem some terrible implementations and mistakes that just shouldnt happen - we'll always get the whole 'old bugs come back' its part of development of complex combined systems but at least ye old "omg armor is decay 4 times more than it did last night" bug is gone (for good I hope)

as for strategy from a development point of view they are bad, but MA could do a roadmap with some dates missing to give us a clue about whats going on - when i joined there were roadmaps but they sadly disappeared

kygon · 05-21-2008, 14:25

http://web.archive.org/web/200505070...nt.ajp?Id=1379

last roadmap I saw, we need more of this!

D-Low · 05-21-2008, 14:27

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Originally Posted by AJack10600

Well that might apply to you but what about the new joining players?

Hence I am saying, why not add new mobs, new mob categories... new locations ? As it stands this is simply affecting the game play of average players... just resetting the bar as you call it...

I don't think it's the right thing to do the way they have done it...

That's my opinion..

I understand what your saying for the most part. But as far as new people, they will know nothing about the add HP of mobs unless they hear it from the old heads like us. They will just skill and skill until they can take the mobs down. Just like we did when we started.

Put it like this. "You can't miss something you never had"

Hulyss · 05-21-2008, 14:36

I think Etopia is hot for a reply now

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MistyDawn · 05-21-2008, 14:40

From the wayback time machine...

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Coming 2004-2005...

Beauty/Body shops – Shops where you can alter the looks of your avatar, with completely new appearances and styles, including piercing and tattoos.

It's now 2008 and people keep talking about these as a 'wish list' kind of thing.

I agree that some sort of road map would be nice but it should only state things that are definately coming sometime soon.

AJack10600 · 05-21-2008, 14:42

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Originally Posted by D-Low

I understand what your saying for the most part. But as far as new people, they will know nothing about the add HP of mobs unless they hear it from the old heads like us. They will just skill and skill until they can take the mobs down. Just like we did when we started.

Put it like this. "You can't miss something you never had"

Let's put it like this... it might put people off if they realise that this game is too expensive to play... already now we have trouble retaining new players and many leave after a few weeks... all this new HP stuff and regeneration... that is NOT a damn feature to enhance game play... it's ADDITIONAL ammo and decay. Full stop. If you don't see that I am affraid then you are blind. It renderst the game more expensive if you hunt these mobs + it devalues the guns ingame quite substantially, so yes it's a rebalancing, it's the kind of rebalancing that MA said they would never do... they are changing the stats. Instead of adding a new level, new mob, new levels of difficulty, they just render the existing environment more and more competitive... that will not work forever...

Remember, MA said that they expect the average player to be gone after a couple of months... hence they try to squeeze as much out of them as possible at the average level... that's what I find quite shocking... there is no long term strategy here... instead of trying to retain the players they just squeeze the mid level market more...

I again repeat my warnings... beware of a competitor showing up in your niche market MA ... beware..

Etopia · 05-21-2008, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Hulyss

I think Etopia is hot for a reply now

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haha , nooo , i have nothing more to add , i wont beat that dead horse...

really there is nothing to say about that VU ...
What did they change : no much , and nothing that needed change
What did they fix : 2 or 3 boring bug
what did they add 2 or 3 new boring bug...

all in all , that VU is just 4 mobs char change that we dont care , 2 color change that we dont care , 2 bug fix that are replaced with 2 new bug..

all in all , VU or Not , its exactly same as yesterday ...
we have just loss 1 day of playing , and they wasted 4 month of developing time to do nothing....

I wait to see som more of the new weapon to comment that part.as for ram and net code... yet i still lag because connection , so i will wait for net code coment , and i have 4gb ram , so that EU eat 800 meg and not 1.6g i really dont care...

kygon · 05-21-2008, 14:49

you know im probably just overjoyed at the lack of new barbie shit!

no chance of "kygon has discovered bikini line hair removal cream" this VU !

Eto is right tho they didnt change much of all but thats my point nothing so bad changed but people are still complaining like they nerfed so many things overnight

-some people cant hunt the new HP mobs then hunt other ones

-some people can can hunt them and enjoy the new challenge

-some people just like to complain about anything however unimportant in the "grand scheme of things" and give MA no slack to fix em.

and yes I want an EU that uses the correct amount of resources and utilises my whole RAM and GFX card - I'm sure tho that crytropia will fucking hammer my machine (but I want it to hammer it for good reasons not shitty code!)

D-Low · 05-21-2008, 15:05

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Originally Posted by AJack10600

Let's put it like this... it might put people off if they realise that this game is too expensive to play... already now we have trouble retaining new players and many leave after a few weeks... all this new HP stuff and regeneration... that is NOT a damn feature to enhance game play... it's ADDITIONAL ammo and decay. Full stop. If you don't see that I am affraid then you are blind. It renderst the game more expensive if you hunt these mobs + it devalues the guns ingame quite substantially, so yes it's a rebalancing, it's the kind of rebalancing that MA said they would never do... they are changing the stats. Instead of adding a new level, new mob, new levels of difficulty, they just render the existing environment more and more competitive... that will not work forever...

Remember, MA said that they expect the average player to be gone after a couple of months... hence they try to squeeze as much out of them as possible at the average level... that's what I find quite shocking... there is no long term strategy here... instead of trying to retain the players they just squeeze the mid level market more...

I again repeat my warnings... beware of a competitor showing up in your niche market MA ... beware..

I'm glad you put it like that. Now here's the real deal. EU will go on with out YOU or me. So if you leave, trust me there will be 10 to replace you. lol And if you know that MA tries to squeeze as much out of people as possible. What made you stay? Did they not try that with you? Or are you saying your smarter then everyone else? hmmm

And as far as competitors, let them come. You make sound as if they don't have any right now. lol I guess that will be your time to move on if not now.

Hulyss · 05-21-2008, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Etopia

haha , nooo , i have nothing more to add , i wont beat that dead horse...

really there is nothing to say about that VU ...
What did they change : no much , and nothing that needed change
What did they fix : 2 or 3 boring bug
what did they add 2 or 3 new boring bug...

all in all , that VU is just 4 mobs char change that we dont care , 2 color change that we dont care , 2 bug fix that are replaced with 2 new bug..

all in all , VU or Not , its exactly same as yesterday ...
we have just loss 1 day of playing , and they wasted 4 month of developing time to do nothing....

I wait to see som more of the new weapon to comment that part.as for ram and net code... yet i still lag because connection , so i will wait for net code coment , and i have 4gb ram , so that EU eat 800 meg and not 1.6g i really dont care...

Yea i experiment some lag too, but its not from my side. Do they implement a net code ?