Terms and Condition Changes. - Page 2

wanda · 07-04-2005, 15:52

actually MA can't really know if you sold something outside of PE, because all they see is a trade with no peds involved.

So they couldn't really prove there was a trade unless one party complains.

Fred sells jon and imp mk2 through paypal. jon is a bit of a scammer so tells MA he was ripped off, MA lock fred because he went outside of PE payment system.

NoBion · 07-04-2005, 16:00

lol..

Now we arent able to sell our peds/items anymore, outside PE..

This meens, That they have 100% control over your money, And if you try to avoid it. They lock your account down + all your money...

that is lame!

wanda · 07-04-2005, 16:02

maybe this was the surprise

Darkscorp · 07-04-2005, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBion

lol..

Now we arent able to sell our peds/items anymore, outside PE..

This meens, That they have 100% control over your money, And if you try to avoid it. They lock your account down + all your money...

that is lame!

No...thats not what I read but I'd still contact MA to find out what "approved" means first.

Essi · 07-04-2005, 16:06

I would like to bring up some points:

This new EULA doesnt nean MA will act upon those new things - just that they are on list of actions that clearly may lead to locking/banning. (I think most PE players have broken EULA without getting punished.)
This isnt anything totally new since MA has had rights to lock/ban without any EULA statements before.
This also can prevent players as well as scammers and those who intentionally try to damage PE or hurt players are "warned" in EULA.

gurkha · 07-04-2005, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanda

actually MA can't really know if you sold something outside of PE, because all they see is a trade with no peds involved.

So they couldn't really prove there was a trade unless one party complains.

Fred sells jon and imp mk2 through paypal. jon is a bit of a scammer so tells MA he was ripped off, MA lock fred because he went outside of PE payment system.

could be the other way round:

Fred gets the USD through paypal, and then doesn't trade, MA see's nothing, and jon's screwed.

or he could trade then claim that Jon used that fancy trade bug to cheat him out of his impmk2

wanda · 07-04-2005, 16:09

actually, MA list several approved payment methods for depositing on their site such as;

paynova
paybycash
game-time.info
bank transfer
"certificate"
credit card

Players could "assume" these methods are also approved for any pe transaction unless told otherwise.

wanda · 07-04-2005, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurkha

Fred gets the USD through paypal, and then doesn't trade, MA see's nothing, and jon's screwed.

Jon can send a copy of the reciept to MA though proving he sent money.

Both players can be locked I guess

Essi · 07-04-2005, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanda

Jon can send a copy of the reciept to MA though proving he sent money.

But MA cant be sure he sent money just for that purpose.

I think MA wants to get rid of those trades because they cant control/monitor them, BUT they will get blamed/hurted when someone gets scammed.

Knuckles · 07-04-2005, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanda

Jon can send a copy of the reciept to MA though proving he sent money.

Both players can be locked I guess

And item disappears from PE and then there is 1 less imk2 around..since no one can loot one

Brilliant

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