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Old 05-17-2008, 09:58   #41
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here is how i see it.

nonsense threads will hae nonsense tags. but must of those tages will be only used that one time and in the long run will be useless.

real useful tags attached to real useful threads will be bigger in the tag cloud and actually relevant.

i think the current system is JUST fine.

look at the thread you used as an example. it is a bullshit thread, who gives a shit about the tags? seriously. most of the tags i see are mostly useful with a smattering of uselessness, but not enough to comment or make a thread about it.
Exactly what I was thinking.
In all honesty Ive added a nonsense tag to the thread the OP of this thread refers to. Why? cuz the thread was total nonsense to begin with.. Its pretty useless adding usefull tags to a nonsense thread...
Threads will get better or relevant tags, the better the thread is.
Some good threads may still get total nonsense tags, but then an admin should remove it, keeping in mind some sense of humor.
Imo, think its not usefull if only senior, admins or mods can edit tags. The more people can edit them, the more diverse tags you will get.

Maybe add an option to the tagging system, if people find tags offensive in a thread, they can flag them and an admin gets a msg to review the tags.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:45   #42
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I agree 100%, just look at the tags this topic has gotten: "
crybaby, e-lite sucks, irrelevant tags, proper use of tags, tag him with a tango!, tag police, tag you're it"

I made a buying thread the other day and received tag "more money than brains". It's a uselss feature

Tags are not supposed to be funny, they are supposed to be related to the topic, to make it easier searching and finding related topics

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i guess limit it to senior would be nice
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So you REALLY think it's fun to see "Dextrar suck balls" in the tags? And as far as I understand the tag system is not intended for "funny annonymous comments". It's not a comment feature. I am frequenting other boards too just like you, where they have the tag system also. And there they let a selected group of people do the taging. Like I suggested, senior members or similar.


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Tags are not supposed to be funny, they are supposed to be related to the topic, to make it easier searching and finding related topics

what if they are funny AND relevant? these might not be polite but they are relevant to the thread. also you can tag, anyone can tag. you feel it is improper? add the 'correct' ones. the limit is pretty high and people can only add 2 so the amount of 'trouble' one person can create is minimum.

the tag sysem is very new and hasn't had time to really start working. i'd bet maybe 1% of the total forum is tagged. give it a year or two and then it will be relevant. or better yet, start mining the older threads with proper tags. i know i have

a useless, funny, smartass tag on threads will not destroy the integrity of the search. like i said earlier NO thread will really need the max amount of tags to be relevant for it to be found in a search.


to me the funny, smartass tags ADD to the thread, not detract. if they get out of hand (whatever the definition of that may be) then maybe a moderation should be in order, but come on, do we need one more filter on our information? perhaps that which would be modded in the normal thread (name calling, slurs, etc) could be target. i think that in time the stupid tags novelty will wear down and self-moderation will create a happy medium.

and to those adding silly tags: make them relevant, don't just be stupid! don't give the mods somthing more to clamp down on and stop giving the whiners and sticklers a reason to bitch. i think the tag feature is fantastic and I like that it is unrestricted and would prefer it remain as such.


also, looking at the tags several actually are useful elsewhere;
crybaby, irrelevant tags, proper use of tags, whine

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Seems to me that all tags should be private except those that are generated by a moderator and that they should not be visible to other forum members.

I would really like to have the ability to add tags to threads for my own purposes, and I really don't see why anyone else should need to see them.

If 711 or the mods want to tag significant threads for the benefit of the public, then those tags should be listed at the bottom of the thread.

Seems pretty obvious.

and no, I have no more interest in seeing tags from "Senior" members than from any one else.
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Seems to me that all tags should be private except those that are generated by a moderator and that they should not be visible to other forum members.

I would really like to have the ability to add tags to threads for my own purposes, and I really don't see why anyone else should need to see them.
Sounds like ya got somethin' to hide

Seriously, though, I completely disagree - I wanna see who added which tags to which threads.
Yup .. I'm nosy - don't judge me.

I think it would be awesome to add the ability to see who placed the tags on the thread - but then not advertise that you can see the tagger - so then people would continue to post their cowardly "I can't say it in a post - so I'm going to add it to a tag" bullshit & we could see who it was !

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I'm thinking it would be easily solved.
( If the software is capable of the following: )

Just have the display of tags be done so as to display the x number of most popular tags that are linked to the thread plus x number of a Forum Users personal tags he/she has tagged to that thread. (Each user would see up to 20 tags other people had posted and his 0-5 tags he posted)

Also add a hover-over button on each tag that shows who posted it.

Then it would seem all concerns are taking care of. No Need to assign someone the task and burden of Tagging and Policing Tags on threads.

Of course then you would run the risk of having Funny but popular Tags like "Cucumber Milkshake" being the most used tag, which of course would be the ultimate giggle.

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At the moment the tag is a nice way to insult someone anonymous. I think it should be possible to see who made the tag, and maybe make it so that the owner of the topic can delete all tags?
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The forum permissions for thread tags have now been revised as follows:
  • Thread starters from all usergroups may add up to 5 tags when creating a thread.
  • Thread starters can delete any unrelated or irrelevant tags added to their threads by other members by clicking the "Edit Tags" link at the bottom of their thread.
  • Normal registered members (including Premium, Adjusted, Improved and Modified members) may only add thread tags to their own threads.
  • Senior Members may add up to 2 thread tags to any thread created by another member.
  • Moderators, Admins and EF Reporters may add up to 2 thread tags to any thread created by another member. Moderators can also delete tags on any thread that are deemed unrelated or inappropriate.

I have manually cleaned up the existing thread tags by deleting any tags not directly related to Entropia Universe. This should give us a clean start from this point forward, and result in useful and targeted thread tags.

Remember that the thread tag system is intended to increase the usability of the forum, and as an aid to searches. Please make an effort to supply accurate and suitable tags when creating a thread, and to limit each thread tag to one or two keywords. Try to predict what terms other members might search for, and employ thread tags to help those members find your threads when performing a search for keywords related to your thread topic.

Please be aware that admins and moderators are able to see which member added any particular tag to a thread. Any member found to be abusing thread tags in the future risks losing access to the thread tag system, and/or a temporary ban from EntropiaForum.
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