***OLD*** RULES of EntropiaForum - Page 5

Skam · 04-05-2006, 13:44

What exactly am I not answering?
As for the limits, each case is different. We cannot answer that.
The clearest limits that is, I advice you to jump back to page one of this thread. There it is said what is allowed and what is not allowed. Just follow it, it isnt that hard.

I never had a problem with it, now or before I became a mod. If you think that what you are posting is in a zone of greyscales, then just edit it again until you are sure it is acctually right according to the rules. Then we dont have to make a decition about modding it or not.

I said "just go away" to someone who acctually claimed I was working with a scammer.

Thats just a stupid thing to say, it gets on my nerves. Dont you think it would get on your nerves? Thats arrogance? To be able to defend myself, personally, to such a comment?

dbelinfante · 04-05-2006, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Skam

What exactly am I not answering?
As for the limits, each case is different. We cannot answer that.

Well, that qualifies as "not answering"!

Skam · 04-05-2006, 13:56

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Originally Posted by dbelinfante

Well, that qualifies as "not answering"!

I updated it.
As for "not answering" for such, ofc I cannot answer about the "grey-zones", since thats exactly what they are. We need to make a decition then and there, what is most according to the rules. There is one answer, and that is in the rules that is stated on page one.

What exactly do you want me to say?

dbelinfante · 04-05-2006, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Skam

I updated it.
As for "not answering" for such, ofc I cannot answer about the "grey-zones", since thats exactly what they are. We need to make a decition then and there, what is most according to the rules. There is one answer, and that is in the rules that is stated on page one.

What exactly do you want me to say?

Rule #1: The mods are always correct.
Rule #2: If the mods are not correct, refer to rule #1.

What you're saying is: There is one answer, it is on page one, it leaves many grey zones, and then we get to decide.

I guess that's all there is to it. Not exactly news, but there you are.

Lighterthief · 04-05-2006, 14:07

lol, no i'm not seriously saying that at all, i am tryng to make the point that theres 2 sides to the coin, the side of the mods and the side of the reader

and from the readers perspective its not transparent. this was a high tension topic where ppl had lost real cash so its not hard to see why tensions were high, i can understand that
so the point i was trying to make (and failing i guess) was that ppl can jump to conclusions and in a topic such as that, and when info and posts start disappearing then ppl will get suspicious
i had not accused any mod of being a scammer, just to be real clear

in ur post on the thread twice you said "this rules-discussion ends here" which i totaly respect, and each time another mod carried on, theres a post that was "Thx for the assist Skam ... much appreciated Hon!" but thats a example of another mod pulling the thread sideways and offtopic

now in that thread you also gave a link and said that this was the thread to talk about the rules

so i have done that and the official response i have got is
"go away and find another forum"
or
"do something about your paranoia"

thx for the feedback

again i have no probs with any rules, i have a issue on how this thread was dealt with and i had expected a conversation about it..... oh well

Skam · 04-05-2006, 14:11

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Originally Posted by dbelinfante

Rule #1: The mods are always correct.
Rule #2: If the mods are not correct, refer to rule #1.

What you're saying is: There is one answer, it is on page one, it leaves many grey zones, and then we get to decide.

I guess that's all there is to it. Not exactly news, but there you are.

You are just twisting my words.
Im not saying the mods are always correct, Im saying that there will always be issues that are in the greyzones according to rules.

What do you suggest we do with the greyzones then?
There is a reason moderators are at the forum you know.

Skam · 04-05-2006, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Lighterthief

lol, no i'm not seriously saying that at all, i am tryng to make the point that theres 2 sides to the coin, the side of the mods and the side of the reader

and from the readers perspective its not transparent. this was a high tension topic where ppl had lost real cash so its not hard to see why tensions were high, i can understand that
so the point i was trying to make (and failing i guess) was that ppl can jump to conclusions and in a topic such as that, and when info and posts start disappearing then ppl will get suspicious
i had not accused any mod of being a scammer, just to be real clear

in ur post on the thread twice you said "this rules-discussion ends here" which i totaly respect, and each time another mod carried on, theres a post that was "Thx for the assist Skam ... much appreciated Hon!" but thats a example of another mod pulling the thread sideways and offtopic

now in that thread you also gave a link and said that this was the thread to talk about the rules

so i have done that and the official response i have got is
"go away and find another forum"
or
"do something about your paranoia"

thx for the feedback

again i have no probs with any rules, i have a issue on how this thread was dealt with and i had expected a conversation about it..... oh well

Bad and hurting way to show the two sides of a coin, we are just people here, moderating -remember that.
I took that personally, yes -does that come as a shock to you? Nobody likes to have anyone say you might be on a scammers side in a case, or that you might even be workign with them -when you have tried your best to be as honorable as possible through years in PE.

Your welcome to have a conversation but perhaps you should remind yourself you are not talking to a robot.

dbelinfante · 04-05-2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Skam

You are just twisting my words.
Im not saying the mods are always correct, Im saying that there will always be issues that are in the greyzones according to rules.

You're saying exactly what I'm saying. Follow thru on your own statement thus: If there's a grey zone, the mods need to decide. And there's no debate on that decision, often not even an explanation of that decision.

You have the last word. I'm done with this.

Skam · 04-05-2006, 14:21

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Originally Posted by dbelinfante

You're saying exactly what I'm saying. Follow thru on your own statement thus: If there's a grey zone, the mods need to decide. And there's no debate on that decision, often not even an explanation of that decision.

You have the last word. I'm done with this.

What do you suggest we do then?
You are welcome to critize a decition, in this thread right here on in a PM to the moderators.
We acctually do discuss this between us moderators then, in the hidden Mod's corner. To see if anything should be changed. We keep logs so MB and the rest of the mods can see what have been done, specially about the "grey zones".

jonboy · 04-05-2006, 14:30

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Originally Posted by dbelinfante

You're saying exactly what I'm saying. Follow thru on your own statement thus: If there's a grey zone, the mods need to decide. And there's no debate on that decision, often not even an explanation of that decision.

You have the last word. I'm done with this.

I'm not really sure where you are going with this

You seem to be reenforcing what MB says in the opening post and trying to blame the Moderators.

I also fail to understand what grey zones are? could you put an example as it seems clear to me what we can and cant say/do.