Economy Armor Suggestions - Page 3

JohnCapital · 05-12-2008, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

Heh, I cleared out all my armour except my Gnome+5As a while back. I'm now back up to 5 full sets again.
Although I haven't gone into any meaningful detail on decay of this combo it's usually a lot less than others in different armour have had who've been hunting the same mobs for roughly the same amount of time.
It's reasonably light, reasonably durable, surprisingly effective - and it's cheap to keep in full condition. It's also good for Argo Hunters without needing to fap usually.
5As also have the highest durability ingame by a fair whack, except for the (L) plates ofc

I agree, 5A are great plates. I love mine.

Funny enough, gnome is heavier and has less durability than rascal. But, it does have 5 less protection, which does make for better eco. 1.803 vs. 2.266 avg decay against hunters with 5As.

However, that also translates to avg. 40 dmg, vs 35 w/ rascal/5A (25 for rascal +5B). (#s based on Entropedia, of course) It's great you can hunt w/ that setup. Your good evade skills and decent dmg/sec weapons let you take advantage of less armor. However, I tried to stay as close to 25 avg. dmg. for this list as possible, so I had to list rascal+5B.

I already got folks saying the armor I list is too little in many cases already, lol.

Redfrog · 05-12-2008, 16:42

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Originally Posted by JohnCapital

I agree, 5A are great plates. I love mine.

Funny enough, gnome is heavier and has less durability than rascal. But, it does have 5 less protection, which does make for better eco. 1.803 vs. 2.266 avg decay against hunters with 5As.

However, that also translates to avg. 40 dmg, vs 35 w/ rascal/5A (25 for rascal +5B). (#s based on Entropedia, of course) It's great you can hunt w/ that setup. Your good evade skills and decent dmg/sec weapons let you take advantage of less armor. However, I tried to stay as close to 25 avg. dmg. for this list as possible, so I had to list rascal+5B.

I already got folks saying the armor I list is too little in many cases already, lol.

Definitely, 5As are one of the most useful buys I've made ingame.

Hehe, not arguing with your choices at all, just adding a couple of thoughts

The weight vs durability of Gnome is my only real quibble with it. However, having said that, I'm considering getting Kobold instead (or knowing me - as well!) Slightly lighter, 25% more durability, only 1 more physical protection but the Cold protection is very useful of course. My first thought is that it could prove a very useful armour just for Impact+Cut mobs.

As you've gone into much more detail than I have on this matter, I'd appreciate your take on this idea.

Allison Al · 05-12-2008, 17:05

I usually hunt Kerbs in full pixie. All the way up to provider, I have never had to worry about faping, they very rarely do more then a few points.

JohnCapital · 05-12-2008, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

However, having said that, I'm considering getting Kobold instead (or knowing me - as well!) Slightly lighter, 25% more durability, only 1 more physical protection but the Cold protection is very useful of course. My first thought is that it could prove a very useful armour just for Impact+Cut mobs.

As you've gone into much more detail than I have on this matter, I'd appreciate your take on this idea.

Gnome, kobold and rascal are an interesting set of armors. Their impact/cut protection is so close. Only 5 points difference in total (from gnome to rascal). Kobold is stuck in the middle. However, both rascal/kobold have burn, for bot hunting and kobold even has cold.

For impact/cut (argo/molisk, etc.) There's too little extra protection in kobold to justify the higher decay over gnome. 1 point protection vs. ~0.1 pec extra decay per hit.

As for the burn, it's the exact opposite. 8 burn vs rascal's 12 means 0.3 pec savings for only 4 points extra dmg. Stick some 3b or 6a on and you can hunt small drones almost for free.

As for the cold, well... The cold protection is the 1 thing kobold is most known for.

And that point means almost nothing except for 1 mob: feffs.

Kobold is much more eco then ghost for feff hunting, bar none. However, I've found out that gremlin is even better. With a difference of 5 points protection, you get ~0.6 pec savings.

So, the one instance where kobold is the top choice seems to be small drone hunting. Feff hunting, it's great as well, but with cut/impact, I'd say stick to your gnome.

JohnCapital · 05-12-2008, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Allison Al

I usually hunt Kerbs in full pixie. All the way up to provider, I have never had to worry about faping, they very rarely do more then a few points.

Quite true. The trick here is that pixie is actually absorbing too much dmg.

As you said, kerbs are fairly weak, same with faux. So using goblin to absorb the impact dmg and letting the cut dmg through allows a small amount of savings while increasing total dmg so slightly, that the savings are likely never lost on any extra fapping.

You can use the same dmg. leak trick on faux up to prov and molisk youngs, but after those maturities, the dmg/decay #s run dead even on goblin and pixie.

Redfrog · 05-12-2008, 18:36

Thanks for a quick, useful and informative reply JC. As usual

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Originally Posted by JohnCapital

... with cut/impact, I'd say stick to your Gnome.

I've been here just over 2 years now and I've had this set for about 3/4 of that
time, it definitely gets my vote as the armour that lives in my carried inventory.