Economy Armor Suggestions

[JohnCapital]

Now that some great work has been done on How Armor Works and Mob Damage Studies - Circa 2008 we can now better figure which armors offer the best protection for the price (decay). (NOTE: Any input you have on specific mob dmg can always improve our results and should be placed here.)

I went through the entire table of mobs and using this fantastic Entropedia tool plus other data pages, I've come up with recommendations for the most economical armor to use while hunting. Eco meaning good protection while paying the least decay. I've found some very interesting things.

For example, Shogun+2A, Rascal, & Gremlin all protect 15 impact, but which one decays less? You might be surprised.

Note, these are simply recommendations based on a decent combination of protection & decay. Your equipment/skills, team hunting, etc. may allow for less armor, or require more. These are just starting points to consider in choosing your armor/plate combinations.

Assumptions I used:

• No nekkid hunting
• No team hunting
• korss+A104 type dmg
• avg. evade/fap
• No (L) armor or (L) plates
• No exotic/rare/expensive armors, nothing over ghost

Lists created using "standard" armor+plates (fairly easy to get these)

• Armor Plates 2a
• Armor Plates 3b
• Armor Plates 5a
• Armor Plates 5b
• Armor Plates 6a
• Armor Plates 6b
• Ghost
• Gnome
• Goblin
• Gremlin
• Knight
• Kobold
• Pixie
• Rascal
• Shogun
• Vigilante

Expected avg. damage amount on fully repaired armor/plates

• 1 dmg = too much protection
• below 25 = optimal
• above 30 = danger
• above 50 = run

"Run" simply means in ghost+5B (or similar) it still does over 40-50 max. dmg. You may still be able to hunt them, skills & equipment depending. (For completeness, I list high-end armor on these when I can, aiming for close to 50 avg dmg. However at this level certain other factors come into play for armor selection.)

In some cases other armors/plates produced better results. For example Rascal+5D is more eco then Kobold for Feffs, however 5Ds are not in high circulation and may be difficult for the avg. person to get.

Perfect example is Ghost vs. Nemesis. Most times nemesis offers much better C/S/I economy, but the price/rarity keeps it out of most folk's hands, and Ghost is currently quite easily available. So if you have Nemesis and see "Ghost" just adjust as needed.

I'm not going going to list "dead" or non-fighting mobs like Eomon and Gibnib.

And yes some mobs (I.E. Exo) you can hunt nekkid without much problem. However, this is just an exercise for me.

[JohnCapital]

Aetherex
Young-Guard = Gremlin+5a

Allophyl (Fast Regenerating Mob. High Dmg/Sec Weapons Required)
Young-Oa = Pixie+6bs
Prowler+ = Ghost+6b

Ambulimax (Fast Regenerating Mob. High Dmg/Sec Weapons Required)
Young-Old = Gremlin+5a/5b
Prov+ = Run (Boar+5b)

Araneatrox (Fast Regenerating Mob. High Dmg/Sec Weapons Required)
Run (Angel+5b)

Argonaut
Young-Gatherer = Pixie
Guard-Raider = Pixie+5a
Hunter = Rascal+5b
Warrior+ = Ghost+5b

Armax Bull
Young-Mature = Shogun+2a
Old-Guard = Shogun+5b
Dom+ = Ghost+5b

Armax Cow
Young-Prov = Shogun+2a

Atrax
Young-Alpha = Shogun+2a
Oa-Prowler = Gremlin+5b
Stalker = Run (Angel+5b)

Atrox
Young-Prov = Shogun+2a
Guard-Alpha = Gremlin+5b
Oa+ = Run (Boar+5b For Oa-Prowler, Stalker Supremacy+5b)

Attacker (Due To Location, Prepare For Possible Pvp As Well)
Kobold+6b (Gen 01 Does 100% Electric, Thus The 6b Plates)

Aurli
Dome1/2 = Gremlin+5b (Partially Due To The Kreltin There As Well)
Dome4 = Ghost+5b

Berycled
Young-Alpha = Pixie
Oa+ Gnome+2a

Bristlehog
Young-Guard = Any Non-Electric Armor+6b
Dom = Ghost+1c
Alpha+ = Ghost+6b

Calamusoid Female
Pixie

Calamusoid Male
Pixie

Caperon
Run (Ghoul+5b)

Caudatergus
Pixie

Cersumon
Young-Prov = Ghost+6b
Guard+ = Run (Ghoul+6b Up To Oa, Then Thunderbird+6b)

Chomper
Run (Boar+5b)

Combibo
Goblin

Cornoanterion
Young-Mature = Gremlin+5a
Old+ = Gremlin+5b

Cornundacauda
Young-Alpha = Pixie
Prowler+ = Kobold+5a

Cornundos
Young-Guard = Pixie
Dom-Oa = Pixie+2a
Prowler+ = Kobold+5a

Daikiba
Young-Dom = Pixie
Alpha = Rascal+5a
Oa+ = Gremlin+5b

Daspletor
Run (Tiger+5b)

Diripi
Non-Stab Armor+5b

Drone
Gen 1-5 = Kobold+3b
Gen 6-9 = Shogun+6a
Gen 10+ = Vigi+6a

Equus
Young-Guard = Pixie
Dom-Prowler = Kobold+5b
Stalker = Gremlin+5b

Estophyl (Fast Regenerating Mob. High Dmg/Sec Weapons Required)
Young-Guard = Gnome+5a
Dom+ = Gremlin+5b

Exarosaur
Pixie

Falxangius
Run (Shadow+5b)

Faucervix
Young-Alpha = Goblin
Oa+ = Pixie+2a

Feffoid
Outcast-Clan Warlord = Gremlin+5a

Formicacida
Weak-Strong = Gremlin+5b
Majestic+ = Run (Protector Of The Empire+5b)

Formidon
Young-Mature = Vigi+5b
Old+ = Run (Jaguar+5b)

Foul
Young-Guard = Pixie
Scav-Radier = Unknown
Hunter+ = Grem+5b

Fungoid
Run (Gremlin)

Globster
Run (Gremlin)

Gokibusagi
Young-Old = Knight
Prov = Gremlin+5b
Guard+ = Vigi+5b

Gradivore
Young-Alpha = Goblin
Oa+ = Gremlin

Hiryuu
Shogun+2a

Hispidus
Ghost+5b

Hogglo
Young-Mature = Ghost+5b
Old+ = Run (Unknown)

Igni
Non-Stab+5b

Itumatrox
Young-Mature = Knigh+6a
Old+ = Vigi+6a

Kerberos
Goblin

Kingfisher
Young-Old = Ghost+5b
Prov+ = Run (Boar+5b)

Kreltin
Dome1-3 = Gremlin+5b

Longu
Young-Old = Gnome+2a
Prov-Dom = Shogun/Rascal+5b
Alpha+ = Ghost+5b

Maffoid
Oucast-Bezerker = Pixie
Hunter+ = Gnome+5b

Malcruentor
Run (Jaguar+5b)

Mermoth
Young-Guard = Gnome+5a
Oa+ = Ghost+5b
Prowler+ = Run (Boar+5b)

Merp
Young-Oa = Pixie
Prowler+ = Rascal+5a

Miner Bot
50/50 Impact/Cut But Also A Lot Of High-Lvl Drones Where They Are, So Gremlin/Ghost+6as, Or Similar Works Great

Molisk
Young-Guard = Pixe
Scavenger-Hunter = Gremlin+5b
Leader = Run (Boar+5b)

Morsusilex
Young-Guard = Pixie
Alpha = Run (Boar+5b)

Mourner
Young-Old = Pixie
Prov+ = Gremlin+5b

Mulaak'f (Due To Location, Prepare For Possible Pvp As Well)
Unknown But Likely Run

Mulmun (Due To Location, Prepare For Possible Pvp As Well)
Unknown But I've Hunted Them Rather Comfortably In Rascal

Muluk-Hir (Due To Location, Prepare For Possible Pvp As Well)
Unknown

Neconu
Young = Gremlin+5b
Mat+ = Run (Boar+5b)

Nexnecis
Young-Mature = Shogun
Old+ = Gremlin+5b

Oculus
Ghost+5b

Osseocollum
Young = Ghost+5b
Mat+ = Unknown

Phasm
Young = Gremlin+5b
Mature+ = Unknown

Plumatergus
Young-Dom = Pixie

Prancer
Non-Stab Armor+5b

Pupugi
Non-Stab Armor+5b

Repesilex
Young-Guard = Non-Electric+6b
Stalker = Ghost+6b

Rippersnapper
Non-Cut/Stab Armor+5b

Sabakuma
Non-Stab Armor+5b

Scaboreas
Young-Mature = Gremlin+5b
Old+ = Boar+5b

Scipulor
Young-Mat = Gremlin+5b
Old+ = Ghost+5b (Bear+5b)

Second Entity
Run (Salamander+6a)

Snablesnot-Female
Goblin (Or Non-Acid+2c)

Snablesnot-Male
Goblin (Or Non-Acid+2c)

Snarg
Young-Prov = Kobold+5a
Guard+ = Gremlin+5b

Snarksnot
Pixie

Sumima
Young = Gremlin+6b
Mat+ = Unknown

Tantardion
Pixie+6b

Tantillion
Pixie+6b (Due To The Tantardion That Are Also There. Otherwise Pixie Only)

Tezlapod
Young-Prov = Non-Electric+6b
Guard+ = Ghost+1c

Thorifoid
Run (Viking)(+5d For Dreamer+)

Thorio
Outcast-Guard = Pixie+5b
Raider+ = Gremlin+5b

Trilomite
Young-Alpha = Non-Electric+6b
Oa+ = Ghost+6b

Tripudion
Young-Guardian = Pixie

Trooper
Gen 01-02 = Shogun+6a
Gen 03+ = Vigi+6a

Tsktsk
Vigi+6a

Umbranoid
Unknown, Likely Impact Armor

Warrior
Gen01-06 = Shogun+6a
Gen07+ = Vigi+6a

[somon90]

Great work, +Rep

[Jimmy B]

Nice list mate.

Since its an economy thread though I think you should mention L armors too. Zombie and Predator for instance can be acquired at prices (110%-115%) such that they become very good eco options.

Also, for the really small skilling mobs, stuff like Explorer/Pioneer+2C can be worth considering.

[CAC]

Great thread mate + rep

Must say though there are a few examples where the mob you have listed can do 80+ damage through the armour plate combo you have listed but it is rare

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

Nice list mate.

Since its an economy thread though I think you should mention L armors too. Zombie and Predator for instance can be acquired at prices (110%-115%) such that they become very good eco options.

Also, for the really small skilling mobs, stuff like Explorer/Pioneer+2C can be worth considering.

You are completely right. At the right markup, (L) armors can be more eco than (UL) armor. We've also talked about the fact that armor+plates is almost always more eco then armor alone.

However, with (L) armor, their true eco is harder to predict, since their prices can change so radically, whereas once you have the (UL) armor, your repair bill is constant.

So, I made some choices, such as no (L) armors and no hard to find armors in order to make the list as useful to as many as possible for as long as possible.

Though I admit "hard to find" may change. I'm seeing a lot more hunter sets available then just a few months ago. And hunter sets are quite eco for some situations.

[JohnCapital]

Originally Posted by CAC

Great thread mate + rep

Must say though there are a few examples where the mob you have listed can do 80+ damage through the armour plate combo you have listed but it is rare

Yeah there are cases were, say hogglo mature can hit nemesis+5b for 1 or 70, and you get those wild swings of dmg. (scips, anyone?) but on avg. it's still a good setup to use.

[timmmers]

Jimmy has a good point there, especially since low end crafted armour is tt food for those who make it quite often and doesn't take massive skills to craft.

Great thread for new guys to read, really shows the impact of plates on what you can hunt, and that it's an eco way to go for those who rely on sweating to finance their fun.

+rep for the effort.

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[Raynaldp]

Finally!! Someone answered all my questions about armours!!
+Rep def

[Pogny]

nice its really helpful

btw why dont use 3.A instead of 2.A ?