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Old 03-01-2007, 10:05   #1
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Armor decay, how does it work

Since this is an issue that keeps returning all the time, I decided to make a wiki page about it. see:http://www.pe-wiki.info/Chart.aspx?chart=ArmorDecay

More details are in the discussion tab. If you have additional info, or any questions, feel free to reply .
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This chart shows the decay an armor will suffer from one hit at a certain amount of HP absorbed. This is the same for every armor. The minimal decay an armor can suffer is its total protection
Great work, just had some doubts about this quote, perhaps i just misread or don't understand it, but shouldn't minimal actualyl be maximal?
Edit: I just read the discussion and i indeed misunderstood sorry
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Great work, just had some doubts about this quote, perhaps i just misread or don't understand it, but shouldn't minimal actualyl be maximal?
The minimum decay on an armor is the total protection in millipecs, so the statement is correct.

The values you have there are consistently lower than the ones arrived at with Etopia's formula by a few %. How did you derive the equation?

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Is it worth putting a Base Decay Per Hit column in the armour table?

Maybe from that, the MobLevel chart could then calculate the cost of a Max. Hit from any given maturity.

EDIT: Oh and on Supremacy a small hit costs 2pec (without fruit method) which sounds about right given that Shadow Base Decay is 1.84.
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Great work, just had some doubts about this quote, perhaps i just misread or don't understand it, but shouldn't minimal actualyl be maximal?
Nope, it is meant to say minimal. In the discussion tab I have added an example to illustrate what I mean with it.
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Is it worth putting a Base Decay Per Hit column in the armour table?

Maybe from that, the MobLevel chart could then calculate the cost of a Max. Hit from any given maturity.

EDIT: Oh and on Supremacy a small hit costs 2pec (without fruit method) which sounds about right given that Shadow Base Decay is 1.84.
The minimal decay isnt a base decay value, and the base decay for all armors is 0 pec. The decay will simply follow the curve, untill it would get lower then the minimal decy. It simply stops following the curve, and will stick at the minimal decay value. (hope that makes sense )
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The minimal decay isnt a base decay value, and the base decay for all armors is 0 pec. The decay will simply follow the curve, untill it would get lower then the minimal decy. It simply stops following the curve, and will stick at the minimal decay value. (hope that makes sense )
If you receive a hit of 1.0 you incurr a cost of (say on Supremacy) 2.34 PEC + the std rate. Therefore, 2.34 PEC is a base rate cost per hit (not hit point.) This is why I call it a Base decay value.
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If you receive a hit of 1.0 you incurr a cost of (say on Supremacy) 2.34 PEC + the std rate. Therefore, 2.34 PEC is a base rate cost per hit (not hit point.) This is why I call it a Base decay value.
That aint the case. You get 2.34 pec + 0. This goes on until your get a hit of about 24 HP. Then the decay will be 2,380, and from there on it will folow the curve as shown in the graph.

Hand painted it looks like this:


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That aint the case. You get 2.34 pec + 0. This goes on until your get a hit of about 24 HP. Then the decay will be 2,380, and from there on it will folow the curve as shown in the graph.

Hand painted it looks like this:


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EDIT: How hang on, so you mean it's an either or decay value whichever is more.
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