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RazorFire Gazman Thernwym Soc: Dark Brotherhood
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Further to my previous comments I propose an overhaul of the bonus point posting system since in its current state suffers from the following flaws:
The cutoff time for bonus point posting varies throughout a season based on whether daylight saving is present or absent, the duration of an event, and the confusion over "2 days" after an event or "48 hours to the second" after the event. This is only going to cause frustration to one or more people throughout a season which should be avoided in what is a good and fun event. My proposal is as follows: Bonus points should be posted by a time that never varies no matter what time of year it is or the length of the event. This avoids any ambiguity. I suggest one of the following 3 deadlines: i) within 1 hour of the conclusion of the event. This isnt a fixed time but is the compromise option. People need to get their screens posted immeadiately after the event, while its fresh in their mind and they are online. ii) by midnight MA time on the day of the event. A fixed time that doesnt vary whatever time of year of length of event. No ambiguity, no confusion. Get them in on the same day and they count. iii) by midnight Ma time the tuesday after the event. Gives people more time and is a fixed time rather than a varying time, avoids ambiguity. My suggestion is the second option; getting all screens in on the same day of the event. This is a fixed time, and easy to remember, there will be no confususion and people will know they need to get it sorted pretty much straight away. RF Yeah, I'm annoyed because I've been bitten on the @ss by a flaw in the system. It's too late for me and I'll get over it, the main thing is to take something positive from this unpleasant experience and ensure this doesnt happen again to anyone else in future and I feel one of the options above would be the most appropriate solution. Last edited by RazorFire; 05-14-2008 at 11:44. |
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I will take your words into consideration Raz, but I have been consistant with time this season. If posted after 48 hour deadline they havent been counted. Globals i keep track of as well though so if they have been added thats cause I got them, Pks I ahvent been able to keep track of though.
Reason I chose this way is that ppl where used to a similar system from global postings and alikes. 24 or 48 hours after they got it and no later. So I dont really see it as a flaw tbh |
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Fair enough, however this does mean throughout a year that for example for me the deadline could be 20:30, 21:00, 21:30 and 22:00 local time depending upon a combination of factors, and I'm sure for others is similar.
Offseason is a chance to look at what didnt quite work and improve upon it. Im sure I'm not the first to be caught out like this, and I'm equally sure I wont be the last; I often do things when they need to be done, as was the case with the pk posting, and not before; if id have known it was in fact 22:00 local time I wouldve done it before then; but If youl consier it that's all I can ask. Regarding the bounty system I also have a suggestion that may be workable: Revenge system: If someone pk'd you in the previous weeks event, you have the option to place a bounty on them in the current event. This will make pking a little more tactical as people may not wish to pk more than their quota, or pk any of the immediate competitors for the current position they hold or are attempting to gain ![]() It also allows some kind of player placed bounty to exist which will appeal to those who like that side of the event. |
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Hehe you actually are the first to mention the 48 hour deadline as some what confusing lol, I suspect thinking in MA-time make it a lil easier. What I have gotten most complaints about, (and some who said they enjoyed it) was about arguments in chat. When players argue and occupy the chat with no other thought than their word fight...
Such behaivior as mentioned above Im still not sure about what to do, leaning towards, warning (shut up) and then point deductions for unsportmanship behavior. And yes mid season time is good for improving things and has in the past also been used to do this, however what some might like others dislike. And thats a balance act that has to be considerd The bounty system will be changed. I also accept suggestions in connection to the comming change but the reason for the change has to be known as well. The reason is that the bounty system has been a fun way to handle revenge, jokes etc. The rules in connection to it have however become some what problematic. So Im looking for a system with very easy rules and with low risk of missunderstanding during the event. What is certain is that the one who is in 1st place, when 30 min of the event remain, will get a bounty placed on their head, by me and from my pocket. Im also looking for 2 more reasons to set bounties, with other words, 3 bounties in each event. And I might reserve one of those to your suggestion, a revenge bounty that has to go through me. Sounds like a good idea tbh, hmm yes The one with a bounty on their head will neither be allowed to fire upon others unless they have fired upon them, it will be seen as good manner if the ones who plan to go for bounty announce so in chat. Annyone who attempt to exploit the bounty system in any way that make the event a less enjoyable experience will be punished." |
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Hmm argh I forgot to say: If other have thoughts about the deadline for posting screens share your thoughts, if it can be made better I would love to do change it, Im not quite convinced yet though.
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I agree with Razor on this. No matter what the deadline is, have it set on a fixed MA-time. If you still think Tuesday is good, make it 22.00 MA or something.
On bounties, skip the "who may claim the bounty" rule and limit the amount of bounties that can be placed. Anyone can claim (except for the one who placed the bounty) I would love to see Neomaven fighting Skaman with caperons biting them from left to right . Most of my ideas I'll give you ingame as the most often just pop up in my head while playing and chatting with you. |
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I really appreciate the suggestions made by Razor on this topic and must say that if it wasn't for this discussion, I would still be thinking that the 48hrs = by the end of the second day. I'm not saying that the announced 48hrs deadline is not clear, but somehow, it seems that I misinterpreted it too. If the deadline is linked to the MA time, then it will surely be 100% clear to me ![]() |
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As many already know tomorrow (Sunday) its prize cermony at CND. There will also be a event before the cermony with big prizes indeed.
Pre CL award show event Hosts: Sodiak, Freyr and Klod Time: 17:00 - 18:30 MA-time Domes: 16-20 Rules: Highest single loot wins!, Pvp is on, dont pk wild, situation will be explained. Prizes: 1st place 1k ped, 2nd place 300 ped, 3rd place 100 ped |
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