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Old 03-17-2008, 09:52   #31
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Well its DAMN close to be such an accusation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scam_%28disambiguation%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

Quote: Scam an Confidence trick

Well to start off, Pinky joined the mentor as a deciple since she was Confident he would take care of her, while the true reason he took her on, was to keep her locked as desciple and won't release her before 100% - when he gets the skill / item. What ever if he scam MindArk getting the skill and item, or use Pinky's avatar as an tool to get them and therefore lure her into being his desciple is still about gaining confidence.

False Reward tricks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confide..._reward_tricks
You are (intentionally?) taking two different connotations of the word "confidence/confident" to draw a false conclusion.

For the purposes of the EntropiaForum rule, scamming is defined as attempting to steal items (or skills) of value from another participant through fraud, hacking, or deception.

I don't believe that many members of this community would categorize "disciple farming", however unpopular that may be, as a form of scamming.

As I stated before, this article is not in violation of the rule in question, so please get back on topic.
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Well its DAMN close to be such an accusation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scam_%28disambiguation%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

Quote: Scam an Confidence trick
I think the big difference for me is a scam is performed to steal something from another person. This guy hasnt stolen anything from me, he is just locked me into a position temporarily.
For me its no different to signing up to a contract with a mobile phone provider only to find out their coverage is crap compared to most other providers. The salesman obviously doesnt tell you that part as he is selling you the phone because he knows it will put you off. So you sign up for a 12 month contract with a rubbish phone. Whereas a Scammer would take my money and not give me the phone at all.

Anyway, any chance this could be taken to the rule discussion thread rather than here, as its a little off topic


I am trying to decide how to play the next article, should I complete the article including prizes with the next one, or finish the story and do another one after that with the prizes? Bear in mind when expressing your opinion, not much happened after this week... Couple of things to tell you, but nothing amazing...
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:01   #33
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Gratz on your beacon Pinky

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And as your mentor told you:
"Mentor: I different time than you. I cant "sleep" with everyone"
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And as your mentor told you:
"Mentor: I different time than you. I cant "sleep" with everyone"
I bet he tries
Very good articles Pinky thx for the enyoyable reading!
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Nice story Pinky.

I would suggest, if MA does not release you out of this Mentor/discipleship to stop at 599,x in prospecting and finish your experiment just bevor you reach 100%.

1) Mentor gets no reward and no points

2) He will be allways remembered to his bad behavoir when he opens his disciple display and sees you sitting at 99% completed

3) Community knows that you would reach the end in maybe dropping another 10 ped of bombs and this 10 peds does mont make any difference to your experiment.


PS:

I would love to call him 99% mentor every time I see him
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Anyway, this person, might have been rude, scammed or cheated you or refused to help, assist, release you...

But naming "scammers" in this forum aint the way 711 and MindBuster wants things to go, and as far as I see it - that is a clear breaking that avatar scammer naming rule...
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Noob: You are not a nice person. You tricked me and took advantage. I will make a post on forum about you...
Mentor: I will look so fan you too
Noob: You should be ashamed of yourself
Mentor: Just piar me
Noob: piar? whats piar?
Mentor: I dont know how about English but to get popular from Newspapers
Noob: Famous?
Mentor: Nearly
Noob: Yes, you may well become famous. I am going. One day fate will pay you back
Mentor: Try. I will see

scammer or not, he accepted being named

so i wouldn't see problems there anyway


wonder if he really thinks he gonna get 2 pts when a disciple graduates
if he does, hes more newbie than he might think


still fun to read though
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:31   #38
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Yay! Good to see another artical....But I can see why people say that MindArk would give the avatar better loots....It's not nearly that easy to profit as a real noob!
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I love this thread of articles wish they had been around when i started playing
thanks for putting in the time pinky
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That full article was quite entertaining, well made and at top informative. I liked most that your Newbie was able to find so manny helping hands. There are also good Mentors in Eu, but you proven it, a active society will do the job too and even better as a single person can.

Thank you for this Story i really enjoyed reading it
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