News: Dining with MindArk

[mjukis]

Originally Posted by Wikkerman

To Mjukis -

They will implement Cryengine2 - Take a look at the company interim statement Q4 2007 "is expected to heavily increase the graphical experience of Entropia Universe" - its going to look pretty.

they have made deals with a bunch of different companies to make new planets - and then sworn them to secrecy.

Due to the RCE nature of EU they can't give us a detailed list of changes every VU before they happen, even if they know exactly what will be in the next update. So even though
"The citizens of this universe need to be informed of what is happening, when its happening and how it will improve the game."
would be nice in theory, the practical consequence would be that it would destabilize the entire economy. - it might collapse the pyramid and a smokescreen to hide behind

They can however tell us the general long term direction they are going. The people that attended that dinner are all planning on being here for a looong time, and were thrilled to hear the the CEO of MindArk have plans for EU for decades to come. And I know a lot of the people here on the forum feel the same way. - I would be utterly gobsmacked if the CEO of any company did not have long-term goals.

If you're the kind of person that wants everything now now now though I guess it's hard to understand how the rest of us appreciate that they have long term visions. - Dont you dare attempt to marginalise me because I dont share your appetite for swallowing any bullshit diversionary tactic thrown my way.

What is it you want to know then? It seems you have a problem with them not releasing more details what will happen with the new planets and what partners they have and so on, is that correct?
Once again, they can't give us all the details for several different reasons. About the new planets it's probably not so much they can't tell us, as they can't make information public that could benefit competitors.
They already tell us what they can, and they're not "out to get you" or to run away with your money. But they can't tell us everything.
If you have a reasonable request I'm sure they will listen. But to demand that we should always be updated on everything at all times just won't work.

[Dunn]

Originally Posted by Skam

How often do you think CEOs of other big MMOs dine with their players? The night became a feast of fun and suprises.

Word on the street is : CCP CEO dines with BoB quite often

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Skam

Hows that constuctive? And the rest of the post for that matter.
Constuctive isnt a word that pops up into my mind reading that post.



Dinner wasnt a PR-thing. If it had been, I bet they would have tipped me to make a report on it beforehand.
Before the alcohol washed away my memories



...That being said, the ideas might be interesting to some. Even though you, Wikkerman, find it beeing worth "jack shit" Im pretty sure some find it more interesting to see what goes on inside the CEO of the MMO many of us spend alot of time in, then what you see after you "smoke a joint". One of these two people might have a impact on our future in EU, and I have a faint idea that it isnt you.

I could have just kept it all to myself tho.

Ahh, selective quoting at it's best. they've trained you well journalist.


Seriously, stop misquoting me. You're pulling references from other peoples words to something directed at me. I don't know why you continue to pick on my posts when I am trying to add a little balance to the thread.

This is not an argument. Stop trying to make it as such.


Re: How is that constructive?
Well, us Scots have this attribute of being straight and frank, no messing around we say what is on our mind and if people don't like swallowing it, then tough.
It is constructive because it is wikkermans perception that there was not enough content pertaining to the game (that we are here for), to receive such high praise for the event (not you, this is not an attack on you here).

re: Dinner was not a PR.
Taking your clients and workers out for dinner is not public relations Give me a break.

re: "you and wikkerman, jack shit".
Don't try to misquote me, don't try to put words into my mouth that were never said.
I already apologies to you earlier in the thread and said it was a good article, I later said it was a "good new story". I never said it "wasn't worth jack shit", I said it could have done with more content. What's your beef with me?


Clearly the owners of Mindark will have more input into the game than I will I don't really get your point there.

You could have kept it to yourself, but that would not have been in anyones interest.

[Skam]

Originally Posted by Wikkerman

To Skam -

Your article was never criticised at any point but seeing as you have thrown your hat in the ring I will respond.

I dont need to be attacked personally to respond to a post I find inappropriate. However, you did make a rude post in response to my thread, and you continure with personal insults in this post.

He held court and shared with you and others his visions and ideas for the future. He is not some mystical guru before who we must all bow down. His job, first and foremost is to make money for the shareholders of the company. Money that comes from paying customers like me and no doubt you. I, as a paying customer, would like a bit more detail of the current plans ie immediately post CE2 implementation, to ensure that I will continue to get what I consider to be value for money (something that has been slipping of late).

You suppose I should just magic those answers out of the MindArk guys? Even though you are unhappy with them, Dont you dare attempt to marginalise me because I dont share your appetite for rolling around in "bullshit", because I am not sharing your point of view.

[Skam]

Originally Posted by Radio

Ahh, selective quoting at it's best. they've trained you well journalist.

Seriously, stop misquoting me. You're pulling references from other peoples words to something directed at me. I don't know why you continue to pick on my posts when I am trying to add a little balance to the thread.

This is not an argument. Stop trying to make it as such.

Re: How is that constructive?
Well, us Scots have this attribute of being straight and frank, no messing around we say what is on our mind and if people don't like swallowing it, then tough.
It is constructive because it is wikkermans perception that there was not enough content pertaining to the game (that we are here for), to receive such high praise for the event (not you, this is not an attack on you here).

re: Dinner was not a PR.
Taking your clients and workers out for dinner is not public relations Give me a break.

re: "you and wikkerman, jack shit".
Don't try to misquote me, don't try to put words into my mouth that were never said.
I already apologies to you earlier in the thread and said it was a good article, I later said it was a "good new story". I never said it "wasn't worth jack shit", I said it could have done with more content. What's your beef with me?


Clearly the owners of Mindark will have more input into the game than I will I don't really get your point there.

You could have kept it to yourself, but that would not have been in anyones interest.

I dont see why you found his reply "constructive", is all.
How can you say thats constructive, is beyond me, lol.

The manner of which his view was shared, was far from constructive.
I dont care where you are from. I am from Finnmark, and its allowed to swear in court here, and swearing to policeofficers is a-okay, but that does not mean I will go around swearing at people in a forum.

And Im not trying to make anything into a argument. I havent made any personal comments.

The last comment I made in the last post was directed at Wikkerman and not at you. I said "you, Wikkerman", as to direct it to only him, I did not say "you and wikkerman". No point in arguing over misunderstandings?

[Lighterthief]

i have questions... important questions damnit!!!!!!

which MA staff member got the most drunk? theres always one :p heheheh

did Jan really order the cheapest wine on the menu? or is that just a rumor going round?

wich ma staff members mobile kept beeping? (i'll guess it was lars with the old automated server alerts :p hehehehehe)

and who ordered the lobster?

[Wikkerman]

Originally Posted by Skam

I dont need to be attacked personally to respond to a post I find inappropriate. However, you did make a rude post in response to my thread, and you continure with personal insults in this post.



You suppose I should just magic those answers out of the MindArk guys? Even though you are unhappy with them, Dont you dare attempt to marginalise me because I dont share your appetite for rolling around in "bullshit", because I am not sharing your point of view.

NOW WAIT A GODDAM MINUTE MISSY!!!!!!

1. Where is the "rude post" I made in response to your thread?

AND

2. You were the one that made the personal attack, I merely responded.

The fact that you have insufficient command of the English language to differentiate is not my problem.

[Wikkerman]

Originally Posted by mjukis

What is it you want to know then? It seems you have a problem with them not releasing more details what will happen with the new planets and what partners they have and so on, is that correct?
Once again, they can't give us all the details for several different reasons. About the new planets it's probably not so much they can't tell us, as they can't make information public that could benefit competitors.
They already tell us what they can, and they're not "out to get you" or to run away with your money. But they can't tell us everything.
If you have a reasonable request I'm sure they will listen. But to demand that we should always be updated on everything at all times just won't work.

Mjukis, I will reply later when I have more time to give you my thoughts.

[Lighterthief]

Originally Posted by Wikkerman

The fact that you have insufficient command of the English language to differentiate is not my problem.

oh ok....
so hows ur norwegian then?

[Malin]

Skam just shared something cool that happend after the convention.
Its no reson to attack heer on that.

I Found the post quite fun and intresting to read about. She wrote a nice post about what happend.