Silverfox, a Bridge Investor - Page 2

SilverFox · 08-20-2005, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ateush

I wonder how much in % of MA shares is this 30 000 000 SEK ?
Im not sure that i'll be happy if some hmmm company from Belize buys
over 50% of MA and then goes bankrupt after few months...

Hi
You have misunderstood.
Bridge doesnt buy all those shares in MA.
Bridge coordinates for ordinary people to buy shares in interesting companies - MA is one.
So it is people like you and me that now can buy shares in an early stage (Venture Capital) from interesting companies through brokers and hopefully profit when we sell them.
/SilverFox

08-20-2005, 10:06

I find this all rather troubling.

From what I understand. I can apply for membership to this 'group'. If I am accepted, I run a 6 month trial, (doing what I wonder) after which point I can purchase an investment. My chances are better if I am 'Invited'

It all seems rather FreeMason-ish to me.

I'm concerned about the money leaving the game too, sure MA gets money in from this, but if the expected return for the investor is up to 400% per year, that's a lot of money leaving MA's pockets.

So tell me, what am I misunderstanding here?

SilverFox · 08-20-2005, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ateush

I wonder how much in % of MA shares is this 30 000 000 SEK ?
Im not sure that i'll be happy if some hmmm company from Belize buys
over 50% of MA and then goes bankrupt after few months...

Hi
Thanks for your opinion.
I think I must correct you a little.
IF BRIDGE GOES BANKRUPT IT DOESNT AFFECT MINDARK.
It is ordinary people like you and me that have "loaned (that is a bad word - but I cant find a better one)" MA our money.
The shares is a kind of reciept (IOU) that we personally own and can sell or keep as we wish....
By investing in MA shares we help MA to "upgrade" this game.
I am sure that the company will use the money that invest in them in a wise way. They have stayed in business for a long time already...
/SilverFox

gurkha · 08-20-2005, 10:12

So Bridge acts like an investment bank, they get investors, these ordinary people, pool their money, and buy shares in Mindark PE AB, if share value goes up, the investors make profit, as does Bridge.

But I thought that all of Mindark PE AB isn't a listed company on the stock market?

And where does your 400% ROI come from?

gurkha · 08-20-2005, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hi
Thanks for your opinion.
I think I must correct you a little.
IF BRIDGE GOES BANKRUPT IT DOESNT AFFECT MINDARK.
It is ordinary people like you and me that have "loaned" MA our money.
The shares is a kind of reciept (IOU) that we personally own and can sell or keep as we wish....
By investing in MA shares we help MA to "upgrade" this game.
I am sure that the company will use the money that "loan" them in a wise way. They have stayed in business for a long time already...
/SilverFox

Mindark went bankrupt shortly after Project Entropia went gold.

Knuckles · 08-20-2005, 10:15

First of all,I am amazed that someone bothered to interview this "investor". But ok ok..maybe someone wants to hear about these "people". You wont go into details about if its a pyramid scheme or not. Fine, I guess but why is the company located in Belize when basically everyone is european? Ah wait,harder to track tax incomes. Oh well,lets enter the bridge website

"Welcome,do you wanna invest in the same companies that made rich people richer?Do you wanna join a network of investors?"

Wow,pyramid scheme deja vu. They all themselves "networks".Coincidence perhaps,but lets continue the tour. After the intro I see the BIGGEST MOST COMMON THING IN PYRAMID SCHEMES

"As a member of bridge you get the rank Agent and you get points for new members you recruit,or when you train Agents that produces points themselves.Points can be traded weekly for cash"

Hold on,you recruit people?And then they produce points for you while you can choose to be passive?Oh boy,this is a pyramid scheme.Thank God for morons who publish this info on a webpage visitors can see. They are avoiding 1 big rule though by using a exception.This all would be ILLEGAL if there was a joining fee. There isnt,but you have to invest 7500+ SEK into a bridge recommended company as a member according to the tour so I guess thats the "fee" of getting into the "cool group of people doing nothing on top getting paid for the noobs under them"

Oh well,this is as much info I can get as a non member.

So Mr. Bo Stahlsparre (Silverfox). This isnt a pyramid scheme although it has pretty much every trademark of one?.You my friend,is busted

Now is the time when I wonder if I should contact the financial inspection or not

Montaque · 08-20-2005, 10:16

Corect me if Im completly out in the wilderness here but as I understand this is a regular investment deal u are running. One of the companies you are supposed to invest in is MA and there is/will be other companies aswell! So where does the PE play its part? As I recon not any stockmarket as of today accepts ped´s for payment. To me this investment company is actually going to be active in the real-world stockmarket and there for it´s completly wrong forum advertising, I cant see how this is related to the gameplay at all?
Hopefully ppl understands what my point is since I got quite confused reading the replys and the on-going discussion.
If Im wrong so sorry but I need sum explanation

SilverFox · 08-20-2005, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk

I find this all rather troubling.

From what I understand. I can apply for membership to this 'group'. If I am accepted, I run a 6 month trial, (doing what I wonder) after which point I can purchase an investment. My chances are better if I am 'Invited'

It all seems rather FreeMason-ish to me.

I'm concerned about the money leaving the game too, sure MA gets money in from this, but if the expected return for the investor is up to 400% per year, that's a lot of money leaving MA's pockets.

So tell me, what am I misunderstanding here?

Hi
I am sorry - most of it

Under the 6 month trial-period you can do everything a member can do.
A disruptive member (thats why we want others to recommend persons that they know) can be kicked.

LOL MA doesnt pay back. When MA enters the new stockmarket it is investors from that market that buy your share.
Hopefully for a better price - thats it.
Money is never taken out from MA - I think they will earn more when new people join and start to deposit.
/SilverFox

SilverFox · 08-20-2005, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurkha

So Bridge acts like an investment bank, they get investors, these ordinary people, pool their money, and buy shares in Mindark PE AB, if share value goes up, the investors make profit, as does Bridge.

But I thought that all of Mindark PE AB isn't a listed company on the stock market?

And where does your 400% ROI come from?

Hi
No Bridge is not an investment bank.
It is you that invest your money.
/SilverFox

gurkha · 08-20-2005, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montaque

Corect me if Im completly out in the wilderness here but as I understand this is a regular investment deal u are running. One of the companies you are supposed to invest in is MA and there is/will be other companies aswell! So where does the PE play its part? As I recon not any stockmarket as of today accepts ped´s for payment. To me this investment company is actually going to be active in the real-world stockmarket and there for it´s completly wrong forum advertising, I cant see how this is related to the gameplay at all?
Hopefully ppl understands what my point is since I got quite confused reading the replys and the on-going discussion.
If Im wrong so sorry but I need sum explanation

Bridge (their 'ordinary people' investors) buy Mindark PE AB shares, shares are a way or raising capital (money) for a company, in return for the money they put in they get a 'share' of the company, if the company does well, the company is worth more, so their shares are worth more, profit.

With more capital Mindark can invest more into the game, advertising, etc, making for a better game, better game and better advertising=more players, more players=bigger game,bigger game=Mindark does well,Mindark does well=Bridges share's are worth more, profit.

simple way of explaining it.

Bridge, like knuckles so delicately put it, is not your standard financial institution, 1. It's based in Belize, although a large majority of it's members are European, this could be, and probably is because of either tax reasons, legal reasons, or both. 2. It's a network of people, who invest in companys Bridge approves of tells them too, so instead of pooling the money and investing as a block, each investor invests seperately. This is an interesting set-up, lots of issues, some of which are more fishy than others, but lets not go into that...

But if MA recieves a lot of capital, and is able to improve the game, and advertise, that's good, so let's not judge before we know all the facts, eh Knuckles?

But I see where you're coming from...