Silverfox, a Bridge Investor

[Montaque]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hi
No Bridge is not an investment bank.
It is you that invest your money.
/SilverFox

How??? My ped´s or what? Montaque more confused than ever and I would love to get sum clarification

[SilverFox]

Originally Posted by Knuckles

First of all,I am amazed that someone bothered to interview this "investor". But ok ok..maybe someone wants to hear about these "people". You wont go into details about if its a pyramid scheme or not. Fine, I guess but why is the company located in Belize when basically everyone is european? Ah wait,harder to track tax incomes. Oh well,lets enter the bridge website

"Welcome,do you wanna invest in the same companies that made rich people richer?Do you wanna join a network of investors?"

Wow,pyramid scheme deja vu. They all themselves "networks".Coincidence perhaps,but lets continue the tour. After the intro I see the BIGGEST MOST COMMON THING IN PYRAMID SCHEMES

"As a member of bridge you get the rank Agent and you get points for new members you recruit,or when you train Agents that produces points themselves.Points can be traded weekly for cash"

Hold on,you recruit people?And then they produce points for you while you can choose to be passive?Oh boy,this is a pyramid scheme.Thank God for morons who publish this info on a webpage visitors can see. They are avoiding 1 big rule though by using a exception.This all would be ILLEGAL if there was a joining fee. There isnt,but you have to invest 7500+ SEK into a bridge recommended company as a member according to the tour so I guess thats the "fee" of getting into the "cool group of people doing nothing on top getting paid for the noobs under them"

Oh well,this is as much info I can get as a non member.

So Mr. Bo Stahlsparre (Silverfox). This isnt a pyramid scheme although it has pretty much every trademark of one?.You my friend,is busted

Now is the time when I wonder if I should contact the financial inspection or not

Hi
Thank you for your opinion.
I dont think Bridge is something for you.
I can tell you that we already have clearance from Swedish Finance Inspection so dont bother its a waste of time and effort.
Come back and check us in a year or so....

Time either promotes you or exposes you.
/SilvewrFox

[Knuckles]

Originally Posted by gurkha

But if MA recieves a lot of capital, and is able to improve the game, and advertise, that's good, so let's not judge before we know all the facts, eh Knuckles? But I see where you're coming from...

I am just pointing out that the Bridge concept with members is what many swedish economists calls illegal due to the network building and with the "fee" of being in the big group.

Silverfox,you did not comment about the Agents you recruit generate points for you which can be read as passive income.The more people you recruit the less you have to work yourself and just sit on your ass reeking in the big cash from your hard working agents

[SilverFox]

Originally Posted by Montaque

How??? My ped´s or what? Montaque more confused than ever and I would love to get sum clarification

Hi
This is RL we are not talking Calypso PED´s.

For every case you are invited to buy a share-post (probably wrong english word - I mean a number of shares).
Normally a "share-post" in Venture Capital Companies cost a hugh sum like 30 000 USD or more.
In our system we are many - so we can lower the sum to aprox 1500 USD.
"Many small streams can make a big river"
Bridge initially intend to invite to 6-10 cases in Scandinavia every year (if there are companies that are interesting enough)
MA is our first company ever!
It all begins in Scandinavia - then expands Global.
/SilverFox

I still dont like it, personally I wish MA were not involved in this, and I really want Marco in here to discuss it.

I happen to feel that in some small way, every player of PE is a shareholder (well, the ones who have deposited) as they contribute to the company, and do well if the company does well.

Would this not mean that if MA wanted to float the company on a stock market it would need to canvass a vote from it's exiting shareholders, us?

I've never heard of this bridge before, but I have heard of a lot of things that it sounds like.

Can anyone tell us of other companies bridge is involved with? Ideally companies that are still in existance, and ones that we have heard of, and ones that have been trading for longer than a few weeks.

In short, I find this all a little odd. It's just my instinct. If you can offer any form of assurance that this bridge is not some form of evil empire, then I'd appreciate it.

[Machman]

It seems, as Knuckles was right to point out and from having read the web site, that you only make money from this initiative if you actively recruit new members?

So if I deposit 1500 and decide that member recruitment is not the thing for me, what happens to that money?

Please explain

[SilverFox]

Originally Posted by Montaque

Corect me if Im completly out in the wilderness here but as I understand this is a regular investment deal u are running. One of the companies you are supposed to invest in is MA and there is/will be other companies aswell! So where does the PE play its part? As I recon not any stockmarket as of today accepts ped´s for payment. To me this investment company is actually going to be active in the real-world stockmarket and there for it´s completly wrong forum advertising, I cant see how this is related to the gameplay at all?
Hopefully ppl understands what my point is since I got quite confused reading the replys and the on-going discussion.
If Im wrong so sorry but I need sum explanation

Hi
Thanks for your posting.
You are correct - this investing is in RL/RW.
It can effect PE because MA will have more resources.
But-

Agree I dont like to discuss RL/RW investments in here.
It keeps me from playing
If you are interested - mail me.
If you dont like this - dont mail me.
/SilverFox

[SilverFox]

Originally Posted by gurkha

Bridge (their 'ordinary people' investors) buy Mindark PE AB shares, shares are a way or raising capital (money) for a company, in return for the money they put in they get a 'share' of the company, if the company does well, the company is worth more, so their shares are worth more, profit.

With more capital Mindark can invest more into the game, advertising, etc, making for a better game, better game and better advertising=more players, more players=bigger game,bigger game=Mindark does well,Mindark does well=Bridges share's are worth more, profit.

simple way of explaining it.

Bridge, like knuckles so delicately put it, is not your standard financial institution, 1. It's based in Belize, although a large majority of it's members are European, this could be, and probably is because of either tax reasons, legal reasons, or both. 2. It's a network of people, who invest in companys Bridge approves of tells them too, so instead of pooling the money and investing as a block, each investor invests seperately. This is an interesting set-up, lots of issues, some of which are more fishy than others, but lets not go into that...

But if MA recieves a lot of capital, and is able to improve the game, and advertise, that's good, so let's not judge before we know all the facts, eh Knuckles? But I see where you're coming from...

Goldstar!
You got it!

[Kalashi]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hi
Thanks for your posting.
You are correct - this investing is in RL/RW.
It can effect PE because MA will have more resources.
But-

Agree I dont like to discuss RL/RW investments in here.
It keeps me from playing
If you are interested - mail me.
If you dont like this - dont mail me.
/SilverFox

ok couple of questions if you dont mind, im not a fan of email atm.

Or maybe MARCO could answer these?

1. Will this be a 'silent' investment. ie. will Bridge/investors have any say in the actual gameplay/running/universe of PE? ie. could you/investors push for someone to be banned from PE?

2. Relating to your avatar ingame, is this simply so you can get some more info about the day2day PE? and for background info to advise potential investors?

many thanks.

[ultimababe]

Please post *all* details about yourself (and yes, we would like PERSONAL details here to check your business dealing history) and your company.

Dont expect people to "invest" in this if they know nothing about you and the company.

I feel that if information like this is not provided and ivestigated by the community then you wont have much luck here