Neverdie explains how to get Rich in EU

[Cuga]

I wonder why people keep hating ND or blaming him for losses. It's not his fault, it's clearly MAs fault. 100% MA. You can not blame landowners for your lack of luck. MA writes the code.

I did criticize him for raising taxes to 6% lately and I boycoted goind to cnd until he dropped them to 5.5%. I still think that's 1% higher then it should be. But I never saw him as the guilty party for loosing money.

I do b1tch against Marco and MA all the time, their chatlogs can proove that

[Hulyss]

Originally Posted by Cuga

I wonder why people keep hating ND or blaming him for losses. It's not his fault, it's clearly MAs fault. 100% MA. You can not blame landowners for your lack of luck. MA writes the code.

I did criticize him for raising taxes to 6% lately and I boycoted goind to cnd until he dropped them to 5.5%. I still think that's 1% higher then it should be. But I never saw him as the guilty party for loosing money.

I do b1tch against Marco and MA all the time, their chatlogs can proove that

U are right aroud this part. Now, people need to understand that EU is a background for our activitys.
The only little problem is that this background is "dynamic" and players dont have the remote control. Only MA have it, thats why its difficult to "trust" the system more than one year. Thats why ND is totaly OUT of Africa with this "U need to believe !!!".

Im sorry but seriousely, we cant believe a system were rules and nerfs are dynamics and can bring major bankrupts. Im mean, if those nerfs and rules are monitored by players, it can be ok cause politic will come ingame to regulate and balance that. But MA work only in his Interest way. ONLY. Absolutelly not urs. We are the lastest problem of MA. U wanna success in this univers ?? U need to be the master of this universe. A least an actor of a player owned univers. Not an enterprise owned universe.

Thats why many valued players quited. Thats why many many valued players sell out to take $ out of this dangerous environnement.
And for now, i must admit they are right to do that. We are not stoopids Are we ?

Playing EU for the fun >> ok. Dont expect getin rich or something like that. Playing EU as an investor >> ok. But u must make major investements. 10k $ is far to be the minimum. It place the limit prety high no ?

U want durability for this kind of game (this bubble) so u must provide lowest possibility of investements. Let say 100$. And dont nerf the things who provide money for the very little investors. Then, more ppl will come ingame, more money will be generated.

[Rentonx]

Originally Posted by Hulyss

Playing EU for the fun >> ok. Dont expect getin rich or something like that. Playing EU as an investor >> ok. But u must make major investements. 10k $ is far to be the minimum. It place the limit prety high no ?

Why cant MA just put this up on the front page of their home site

Those 3 lines is ultimatelty an evalutation of everything

[SHY]

''get rich or die depositing*

-9-5-2008-
by ''50 pecs''-

[WoenK]

As a newb I can say, there are quite many possibilities.
Deposited enough to get my gold card after two months here.
Chipped in quite something, but right now I have seemed to reached a spot, where I can get around without depositing.
1 PED here or there may not seem to be much, but if you have hundreds of situations where you rather prefer to TT something, then it's your own fault.
If one plays his cards a _BIT_ smart, he will earn.
IF one is halfways lazy like me, he gets around.
Anything below that...don't whine if you loose!
Loosing is a personal decision, if you don't see it like that, think about yourself or talk to your shrink.

[Hulyss]

Originally Posted by WoenK

As a newb I can say, there are quite many possibilities.
Deposited enough to get my gold card after two months here.
Chipped in quite something, but right now I have seemed to reached a spot, where I can get around without depositing.
1 PED here or there may not seem to be much, but if you have hundreds of situations where you rather prefer to TT something, then it's your own fault.
If one plays his cards a _BIT_ smart, he will earn.
IF one is halfways lazy like me, he gets around.
Anything below that...don't whine if you loose!
Loosing is a personal decision, if you don't see it like that, think about yourself or talk to your shrink.

As a noob u are far to know what we speak about. U must discover ur "quite many possibilitys" before making a statement.
See u in 5 years.

[Hurrikane]

Originally Posted by Hulyss

As a noob u are far to know what we speak about. U must discover ur "quite many possibilitys" before making a statement.
See u in 5 years.

Funny, I'll have been here 3 years in November and I reckon he's got it right. You're saying it's very hard to get a profit here, he's saying he's happy to tick along getting by. I'd prefer his positive attitude over rants about how MA are out to get us; please tell me what business in history sets out to dissuade it's customers? People have sold out and people have joined. Most people's attention span on things is a max 2 years; look at the relationships, interests and even careers of people and you'll see that. Anyone still interested in any game after that time is in a minority to begin with. The fact that there are many who have been here 5 years or more and are here still says a lot for EU as a whole. The way some of them still complain after 5 years is kinda funny though.

Hurrikane

[Ozi]

Originally Posted by Hurrikane

Funny, I'll have been here 3 years in November and I reckon he's got it right. You're saying it's very hard to get a profit here, he's saying he's happy to tick along getting by. I'd prefer his positive attitude over rants about how MA are out to get us; please tell me what business in history sets out to dissuade it's customers? People have sold out and people have joined. Most people's attention span on things is a max 2 years; look at the relationships, interests and even careers of people and you'll see that. Anyone still interested in any game after that time is in a minority to begin with. The fact that there are many who have been here 5 years or more and are here still says a lot for EU as a whole. The way some of them still complain still after 5 years is kinda funny though.

Hurrikane

I have to agree Hurrikane.

And for those wondering how to get rich, Hurrikane is a perfect example of what you should be doing. By that I don't mean copy the guy, I mean think outside the square a bit and work hard.
Running Wof is a massive undertaking which I do believe the participants genuinely appreciate. Hurrikane works his ass off to pull it together. Not that it is making him rich now, but I forsee that he is on a path that gives him a red hot crack at making big big money. Wof could well be sold as TV rights, maybe has entrance fees sometime in the future, who knows. The point is that through hard work he has created something unique, added massive value to the EU experience for everyone and put himself in a position where making money is a real possibility. And all of it without big deposits, it was created predominantly here on EF for nothing. Of course while doing all that he has become a hugely respected member of the EU community - an achievement that might be more valuable than profits to many.

I think the players who complain about profits are way way too short sighted. EU is in its absolute infancy, the real money making opportunities (if that is what you want from EU) will be in the future when the economy is bigger because the population is bigger.

So when you think you want to complain, maybe put that brainpower into creating something, thinking outside the square a little and have some fun - life will be alot more interesting for everyone

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by Hulyss

As a noob u are far to know what we speak about. U must discover ur "quite many possibilitys" before making a statement.
See u in 5 years.

As a newb, I know quite well what you are talking about. You are whining about how great PE was!
But PE is gone, what is left is EU and honestly....
As in RL the only option is to either adapt or dream on.
Anyone beeing in here over 5 Years and not seeing an opurtinity, has to blame himself.
We newbs do not get the "uberloot" which was TT fodder for you and we do not know what levelling was then.
Just because Neverdie had the balls to do something, which seemed crazy that time, does not mean he is.
He simply had the gut to do what he thinks was right and it looks like it was the right decision.
A "beanscounter" will never understand that, but I do and that is quite enough for me
One has to make choices in life, sometimes you don't get what you expect but if you think you "lost", you have not understood anything about life.

[Hulyss]

First i not complain. I love EU and stay having fun in it. And i dont speak about me over here

I just make a constat. About the ND enterprise in this Universe, i have my view. He is a freakin exception. And will stay a freakin exeption.

Playing EU with 3 peds and resaling for months ur poor loots will not bring u to the ND level or the most popular ubers level. Thats the dream. Luck can bring ya a great uber and it can push u a little bit up, but lol...
Many uber can say they never deposited. But most of us just lie cause they had nothing special and sudenly, they have an IMKII, imp fap, full shadow or eon

Lol. Do they had this by playing SMART ? They freakin deposited thousand of dollars with the hope those toys will increase in price and , at least, not decrease. Only the lucky mojos we know, who play since the start, had the "chance" (if we can say that) to loot itamz who are super valued today. Now, with the time, many things, many events are forgoten.

And if u read correctely, i said EU is only a background of our activitys.
Some dudes are realy creatives and bring some fun ingame thats a fact. But they are a minority. An absolute minority. We cant resume EU as that.
The true hart of EU is not in oil , skin or even pixie parts resaling. The true hart is the community.

The true money is in Shops, uber items, asteroids, LA resaling or management, hangars. The rest is peanuts in the "investor" side.

And, if we look correctely, a big parts of EU players are registred here. A very big part. There is around 22k players registed on EF, let say under 10 k on anothers forums. At this u minus the registred players who left (noobs, ubba ...) and u make the constat.

The community is realy great. Never seen that in another mmorce. Thats the special attraction of Entropia Universe cause it can bring relay great events (as the wof). The only dark side is the "economie" (if we can say that) who is totaly unbalanced due to old cheat and bugs never sorted. Be sure MA know that but cant act. Too much money cow are implicated. They cant loose them.

One time again, i dont complain. I asume, as usual, all my acts in PE, all my acts in EU. I just speak the truth and make a realistic (adult) constatation.

One thing u must screw in mind is im not an individualist guy. I rarely think about my ass or my profit. I try just to see the integrality of what is around us, what can be better for us, or what is bad for us. Observations and analysis are the key. They never lie.