Neverdie explains how to get Rich in EU

[PINKY]

Originally Posted by NEVERDIE

*insert big arsed post here*

Amen to that! Keep on ranting hon - you are doing a great job! I have seen more news stories about you and what you are doing than anything MA puts out, so IMO you are certainly doing things right! I myself are here as a result of your news stories (CND baby )

+rep

[MindStar9]

You've got my +rep as well ND ... not only for your resilience in the face of challenges, but for staying true to your dreams and vision of where you want to take CND and your avatar. You are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, THE premiere PR person for MA/EU, and I would venture to bet that any number of the doubters and criticizers would jump at the opportunities you've created for yourself if they had what it took to do so. And that's the operative word right there ... CREATED ... because it all doesn't just fall into our laps.

You've done ... what many wish they could have done ... who wouldn't want to experience the successes that you have! I have no doubt whatsoever that you will continue to realize, and even surpass your anticipated expectations, so keep the seatbelt fastened tightly, because I know your continued ride in space is going to be the most thrilling that any fantasyland could offer!

Gotta work on getting a spaceship!
Purple if it's available please!

[Phaser]

Its funny to see how blind some people are. Is also funny to see how stupid and ignorant some people are too.

Jealous is a emotional sense that wont acomplish anything inside of EU and imho in our daily lives in the real world. It just brings more despair, uncomfort, stress and many other bullshits along wich people sometimes crack and end up in some maniac hospital or in the grave.

I hate myself today. Well not literaly ofc. Let me explain a simple thing:

Before the 2 last VU´s people were talking about the implementation of new things in EU. (L) items will be the major thing. How stupid I was to NOT BELIEVE that I could invest alot in 101 to 206 amps wich were really cheap and could made a small fortune today.

Some deals in EU can be done in 1 or 2 months, others need a investment in the long term.

I remember 2 years ago more or less, hiting my biggest find in mining. 15k peds of caldorite. That find at the time, gave me more or less the amount of money I already had deposit in EU. No, it dindt made me rich, but, I used the money to buy better gear. One of those items was a weapon. AS129. I bought for 1.8k peds. At the time it seams too much money to pay for a weapon, even more for a virtual item. Thing is that 6 months ago more or less, that weapon got rare has much of many other items. The price went up. I sold it for 8.5k. Dam im so lucky...lol...u think so?

Would I like to have a mod merc and a mod fap? Ofc I would. But dont have! So?

People must realize they are here now! They have they chance here now!
All of us, including the "losers" and the "no believers" have they chance to do something for they virtual lifes. I think some people in EU just play the game only for the money. That is the biggest mistake people do. I play for fun, for the money too ofc, but above all, i love the economic model and what it could become in the next 10 years or so.

Why people have jelous of NEO or ND or similiar people? Cause they have big guns? lol....grow up.

I remember mining on Cnd and finding ND mining in the domes, he got shit and I global all the time. Poor guy....is a noob lol.

That dont mean nothing. ND and some more guys like him, grab a opportunity that most people dont want to try or work for it. They should at least be respected for the balls they had and the vision of a business model that is completly diferent then most "mortals" know.

20 years ago, a computer game were for kids. I remember to plug a very odd box into my black and whit tv and play something like arcanoid whit 2 remotes that have a stick wich move up and dow...huh...think it was a joystick or something like that.

At that time, my parents had about 30 years old, and they dont even paid any attention to my score in the game. It was a thing for kids...a toy...

Today, most people see video games has a kid thing, a toy, they complain about they kids dont play outside whit more kids, hide and seek, or whatever. They dont read books anymore, what to blame? That dam PC, PS2 or Xbox siting in the table...

What they do forget is that most games are very educative and can really teach something to them wich a regular teacher in school could teach also but they wont give a shit, cause its too dam bored siting in a desk on a room whit other 30 kids looking to a black thing taking notes to a paper....pffftttt.....

Im not saying, games a substitute for the regular education ofc, but they can offer much.
Even armed forces today use computer games to train they soldiers or to recrut young people to they ranks. AA anyone?

People today in 30 or 40 years old that play games, like me, like ND like "you" have at least one thing in comon, we were those kids that grow up in the 70´s. We saw the internet coming, we saw the internet showing videos and cool things besides text pages on our browsers. Thats why we still play games. Some people have the vision to "see" the potencial of some product (how many of you dindt wanted to have to possiblity to invest in google or yahoo when it show up?), we have that product here, today, we play on it everyday.

The basic is, that everyone keeps complaining about bad loot, hell, even I sometimes complain about it, im no diferent then many others, but I do understand one thing: its the way it is.

People keep losing money everyday when they play EU, what they do next day? They do exactly the same thing whit the same results.

When we see someone getting a huge ATH on a ambu or Aurli or whatever 2 things might happend. 1, the guy got very lucky which is about to hit in the hole of a needle at first time whit ur eyes closed, or, 2, that guy camp a place for many days and "invest" alot of money in that particular hunt to get the big one. Wich btw I remember this:

http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/uberloots/40969-52-981-ped-aurli-ravager.html

So all these people have the courage to bet on EU, they invest money and time in something they like. Its like every gamer dream, make money and stay at home playing. You think I cannot do it? Or u think you cannot do it? Then you wrong, try to see more then what u actually see everyday in game.

How many times everyday we spend money in stupid things that have no usefull utility or how many times we go out whit out friends and get this huge drunk and came home all F***kd up and trow up in the sink and when we wake up in the morning whit a dam hangover and we regreat the money we spent and how stupid it was to do that and even worse we dindt had any fun and now we are totaly wasted?

Let me say then when I get to a TT and find out that I lost 200peds on my mining or my hunting, I dont get a hangover

The opportunity to make money in EU is there today, you play EU everyday, you know the economy, u know the world, u know how to play it, just pay attention and u can make money of it too.

When I had my society runing, I have the pleasure of having this certain person for some time in there. He had bought a land (not going to say who is or what land is whitout is premission ofc) and we had this lil chat.
I asked him if he tought he did well buying that land, and if it was a profitable thing or not to worry about it. He told me that was the best thing he ever did in EU, he just told me, "I dindt get rich, but I never deposit anymore in EU".

After 1, 2 months or something, he had bought a second land...

Do I have jelous of him? Maybe I do, but, I have even more respect and admiration for him, to bet and invest in something that only exists in virtual world. Today he walks around in uber armor too.

You might say, yea right, like I ever will have the money to buy a land!
Why not?
Deathfier dindt have money when he bought TI, he had to get investors to give him the money to do that.

Did ND had the money to buy CnD? Maybe, maybe he dindt, wich i believe he already had :P cause he already was a know producer of music.

The point is, the opportunity is there to everyone. Its up to you to grab it.

Or you can do like me:
Keep depositing, keep giving money to ND, have fun, fall in love for someone in game, and keep playing because I love EU whit all the buggs, bad loot, the lag and whatever...

Believe in the game like ND says? Why not? You think EU will end in the few years even if some company puts some game whit he economic model has EU? Why would MA ever give up of a project that is unique and they are learning by the mistakes and good things they do in EU, when some new company makes a game like EU and have to go over all the process MA staff had?

Why would MA give up of a business model that brings them money (wich is why EU exist of once and for all put that in your mind) and is a major revolution in video games?

Dont quit? Do I need to explain even more? Want to lose tha opportunity? Its not about space pirates ofc like ND says, that is a marketing ofc, but even so why not?

Above all believe in yourself, change ur real life first to be more confident and then come to EU and make a revolution of it too like some people did.

Like on friend of mine always say:

"Do, or do not! There is no try"
Yoda - Jedi Master

[Phaser]

Btw, sorry for the long post... sometimes I just get in the mood of writing and I never know when to stop it.

Ok, ok im outta of here!

[Ozi]

Nice post Phaser, it was worth the long read

[Skorpijon]

First of id like say that ND is basicly doing what MA is SUPPOSED to do about their product. Is that becouse self interest? Very likely. Is that wrong and bad? No i dont think so. By advertising and educating the outside world about the wonders of entropia he's doing all the current players a favor. So keep at it ND.

And now something about the visions of EU that ND has. Honestly i dont know much what they are but i know that even today when world is getting increasingly caught up in the games most of ppl on this earth still think that playing games is something for the kids. Well... wake up world i say. Advances in science will go so far that games and virtual reality WILL merge someday and at that point ppl that are playing now (perhaps not us but our kids ) will have an edge over those zealous "games are for kids" ppl. And besides i dont think that playing EU is as dangerous as half of things ppl "is supposed to be doing".

So until the world accepts EU as another world and starts treating it like that players, not just ND, should advertise it and bring others into the fold as well

Gl & hf everyone.

[Igorl]

Originally Posted by WoenK

As a newb I can say, there are quite many possibilities.
Deposited enough to get my gold card after two months here.
Chipped in quite something, but right now I have seemed to reached a spot, where I can get around without depositing.
1 PED here or there may not seem to be much, but if you have hundreds of situations where you rather prefer to TT something, then it's your own fault.
If one plays his cards a _BIT_ smart, he will earn.
IF one is halfways lazy like me, he gets around.
Anything below that...don't whine if you loose!
Loosing is a personal decision, if you don't see it like that, think about yourself or talk to your shrink.

There are sooo low number of ppl who can say that know the EU well enough to keep them from depositing that your post actually seems hillarious.

But well - you know the best

I.

[sententz]

For me NEVERDIE is a mentor and a big example.People!!!dont forget ND has borowd 100k $ to invest in Entropia Universe!!!Has put his house to borow 100k$ from a Bank and believed his new life is Entropia!!!
I want to remember to the players of entropia that this world..is not a game of luck,is not gambling and stuff.It is game where some investments and some brain can give you back big money and fun.

Yes!my new life is Entropia..and i'm proud,and i 'Believe' and i dont think i gone 'quit' soon,maybe never.
Entropia is like a job ,a very nice and fun job and whit more posibilities then the real life.If you stay and invest some money and stay ingame some time and respect the laws of the game....you gone see you can win money from your work.

This is my opinion..and i apoligize for my bad english.

[Rentonx]

Originally Posted by NEVERDIE

but if u read EF u see that people are trading virtual items for big bucks daily....

Theres one thing that keeps me from actually spending thousands of dollars a week on this, and i've been tempted with the likes of all these uber items. But something i've realized which makes me uneasy to deposit such large amounts is that when you say, "people are trading virtual items for big bucks daily".. those people are the same handful of players that take part in these deals, the uber depositers of the game... so in a sense its just circulating around the same group of ubers, so to speak. For example Skippie bought a Mod Merc... he may get bored of it and sell it to Lady Trisha, with that money he will go buy imk2 from Neo...(just an annalogy)
So its abit hard to deposit such large amounts of cash when the economy is practically based on the dealings of a small portion of people (mostly the uber depositer - usual suspsects) who play EU.

Originally Posted by NEVERDIE

Its cool if U wanna knock me for my Raving...

I'm quite certain that the population of people who actually dislike you for your fame and fortune is a very minute amount... the rest just sound like they're complaining coz they're confused - but as a whole, the majority of EU players know that you're trying to promote the game for our benefit (which isn't apparent yet - but patience) as well as yours - i would go about promoting it the same way as you... same as anyone else would in your position.

[Hulyss]

Actualy, i dont realy see jalous people around here. I see reactions around some stories we dont know.

U, dudes, interpret those reactions as jalousy but most of time u wrong. People just want the truth, clear things. Some things are shady and will be never clear at all.

Thats why some dudes have violents reactions.
What ND have done is risky and its very cool things works today. Same for Death some years