Scamming Methods Exposed - Page 14

xentric · 11-12-2007, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Midori Fairlona

I am not sure what type of scam you are highlighting there.

it appears the ava was trying to sell him invisiblity

KeynesAlley · 11-13-2007, 06:25

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Originally Posted by Fodders

A friend has a mentor that never showed her how to use the TT. After every hunt she had to give him everything that she looted and all he ever gave her each time was 1 ped.

What a b'stard

I put her right, she gets lots of loot now

You should post this in the mentor scam thread;

Mentorship scams - be careful

Parlog · 11-13-2007, 21:28

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it appears the ava was trying to sell him invisiblity

bugusing is cheating, and in EU i consider cheating a major scam, shall i open up another Topic, like cheats exposed for that? Nah i cant so i posted it here...

Midori Fairlona · 11-13-2007, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Parlog

bugusing is cheating, and in EU i consider cheating a major scam, shall i open up another Topic, like cheats exposed for that? Nah i cant so i posted it here...

Yes, but what scam or bug was occurring? Were they trying to sell you "invisibility"? The chat log you posted isn't clear and could be interpreted as them explaining that you may not be able to see them standing next to you because they are currently invisible or that they are trying to sell you the ability to become invisible. Which was it?

A picture may paint a thousand words, but a few lines of text often helps to add a little context.

xentric · 11-13-2007, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Midori Fairlona

but a few lines of text often helps to add a little context.

what is not clear? the ava offered trade. he asked what was being offered. the ava offered invisibility.. it really seems quite obvious

Midori Fairlona · 11-13-2007, 22:51

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Originally Posted by xentric

what is not clear? the ava offered trade. he asked what was being offered. the ava offered invisibility.. it really seems quite obvious

The Chat log goes like this:

A: You wanna buy something great?
B: hmmm maybe
A: U see me?
A: I'm next to you
B: Yes I am in a trade Sek
B: what you got?
A: invisibility

The key to this conversation is timing.

Was "invisibility" a response to the question "what you got", or was it a clarification for why A might not be visible. Surely you must have entered conversations where someone has only managed to type the response to one question after the second one has been asked. The problem is that some people type faster than others.

Without knowing when those lines of text were written, it is not clear what was going on.

Instead of clarifying the situation with a simple "yes, they were trying to sell me invisibility," Parlog has instead said that they are a bug user and not a scammer. That just confuses the issue even further. Someone that is invisible is a bug user or victim of a bug while someone trying to sell "invisibility" could be described as a scammer.

I am very wary when people start assuming accusations of scamming are "obvious" based purely on two lines of text with no context. The next two lines would have been much more useful. For example, if B asked "You are trying to sell me invisibility?" and A said "Yes, I can make you invisible" then the situation would be much clearer.

Pepper · 11-13-2007, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Donald

I may have just blown my big chance... For the first time since my arrival in Entropia someone offered to sell me their skills, and at a very reasonable price. All I had to do was buy the some empty skill implants... Well, take a look at the picture below.

What do you make of it?

She was most likely a very nice girl, and I laughed in her face. Oh well, hopefully she'll get over it and find someone else to help her. On the other hand, this might just have been a case of the old ESI scam in play. Just a word of warning... This took place today in Jason Centre.

Sincerely,
Donald

P.S. As for the post above, with the hyperlink to the keylogger website, the original post has been edited not to show the correct link. I suggest the quote be edited as well, for safety sake.

Oh Donald... You're my mentor

Always polite, gentile and a Gentleman - even to scammers. Now that's impressive.

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Originally Posted by Parlog

bugusing is cheating, and in EU i consider cheating a major scam, shall i open up another Topic, like cheats exposed for that? Nah i cant so i posted it here...

First i want to say I think it's great that you posted it here, regardless if it's a actual scam attempt or not. Since it's an excellent illustration, nevertheless, how a scam can come up for you (interrupting another trade etc.)
I personally have no doubt that this indeed was a scam attempt, but I can put my finger on the problem: There's a bit of the chat obviously missing between the two screen shots, and that would most likely have explained and proved your case, way beyond reasonable doubt.

If I may, I really like to enforce the importance of taking screenshots when something like this occur - all the time. You can always erase it afterwords.

And thank you all for posting here!
We'll get the bastards in the end