Scamming Methods Exposed

[NoBion]

Originally Posted by NoBion

I was told to add the Scam trick i suffered from here since my old thread was locket by a rule lol


I'll do my best that this doesent happen to others. I like to add that almost all critical points in this case has a proff attached if anyone doubt any of it.

Anyhow a new scammer is out. Hes very active on forums too. got 2 accounts here and ingame.

Occasionally. Some people sometimes work for others with less time to find more rare items. I took up a job of finding a gun for "XXX". I think that name says me something of a avatar ingame. but i doubt its the real XXX who is behind this profile.

He will offer you a good fee for finding it for him. And when you find it. And he will make sure unoticable to be around where you are afterwards. You buy the item for a price beneath that. luckily at a price reasonable for the effort.

Then you of course tell the original jobgiver that the item is found. Then he will tell you that he is busy or can meet you in some days. And when the day finally arrive he dont show up. Checking up on alot of things. i found alot of holes in his stories and PM's that i did not notice before.

I then told the seller that he was BS and cheater and such. and he said he would buy the gun back and that none of it was true. But he were on CND. i could either wait 4 hours time and meet me down on calypso. or i could come CND and do the deal (smart way to make me even frustrated. Thats 50 ped for trip up/down). I thought i just get off with that item asap. so i took a trip up.

There he said he was in apartment and was just about to go auctions. Then he kept saying he were just going to do this and that for 20 min. And after 20 min he says hes running down now. and then he logged out and dident come back on.

I think he moved everything he had to a new avatar. The thing about this method is that some people will think the seller has nothing to do with the buyer.

Thing is this item was worth upto 1300 ped below what i bought it for. I honestly had no idea it was worth so little. there was no market statestic nor any statestics on internet pages from auction history's.

I blame myself for doing this job. But i wanna warn others about his trick.

Be carefull. this is a smart way to misuse a item with low to none market statestic attached.

Facts:

He arranged 3 meets. None of them ended in a meetup from his side.

I know who he bought the gun of. With which account and for what amount. It was bought with the account of which should buy it of me. so that kinda confirms alot

He has been trying to fool another participants too. i had a PM from the participant with a explenation.

A few heard bad about him before. So this is also helping to confirm.


if you got questions to the Scam (hard to put it all in correct. Complicated story). PM me because it might be hard to keep track of where you put the questions inbetween all the other post's.

Its possible you can find the original thread i made thats been locket. if its being stored and read the reply's there since some people helped me put out the description of the scam more simple, by laying up example scenarios.

Regards NoBion

Update:

I repported this guy for creating multiple accounts on EU / EF to mindark, for the intention of exploiting to manipulate with other players with.

This is a clear break of the EULA. as your not allowed to create more accounts than one. And also i consider it to be a different kind of exploit.

Anyhow mindark only took the action of locking the second account. (which they do to people that havent really used them or the like). But did not wanna lock him just temporary as a warning for not trying that scam method again. I find it kinda dull, Since there is a break of the rules involved. And a trick/scam. So there is no point in not giving him a temporary lock

Anyhow i failed after multiple complains to get him temporary locked. Anyhow they will take my complains to evoluation on the next meeting regarding support.

Just kinda sucks anyway ;/. I just can't belive they support a idiot / scammer / tricker. When there is clear grounds for a temporary lock atleast.

You could then start a discussion if he should be locked for it or not. Since many makes more accounts and uses them to manipulate the market statestics on items and so on. And yes. I think they should punish people that manipulates and exploits with an non allowed second account.

[fo0d]

Twenty three pages are alot to read though, so I'll just get it right out without checking if it has already been posted. I apologize if it has already been reported.

In two occasions I have been approached by an avatar wearing thorn OJs asking to team hunt. I believe he is spanish (or at least his avatar resembles spanish names).

He will approach you and suggest a team hunt. Usually called "Global". You will head off with him as he carries his laser rifle.

He never shoots. EVER. So I decide to see if my scamming suspicions were right and fire 10 shots. He's still slightly behind me and he's still not shooting.

So i decide to go all the way and I kill an Exo young to see how he will react. Animal dies, he still hasn't shot a single round, we get the loot and its devided 50-50%. Great work chap, you just got yourself a free 0.09 pec loot.

So now I would expect this guy to run away or something. Nope. He's still waiting there, hoping for me to kill something else for him.

Its a crappy scam, wont get him far either. I hardly think he'll be getting globals that way!

Just thought I'd add my two cents and a gum.

I'll be looking for him again in the coming days, I'll try to remember his user name too.

[yxtom]

Originally Posted by fo0d

....
He never shoots. EVER. So I decide to see if my scamming suspicions were right and fire 10 shots. He's still slightly behind me and he's still not shooting.
So i decide to go all the way and I kill an Exo young to see how he will react. Animal dies, he still hasn't shot a single round, we get the loot and its devided 50-50%. Great work chap, you just got yourself a free 0.09 pec loot.

So... why u argee to use such team setting? Always share loot by dmg. done!!!
(50/50 setting i use only when in teamhunt with my disciple and i know that such kind of teamwork is not eco to me... but in this case - eco is not purpose.)

[fo0d]

Originally Posted by yxtom

So... why u argee to use such team setting? Always share loot by dmg. done!!!
(50/50 setting i use only when in teamhunt with my disciple and i know that such kind of teamwork is not eco to me... but in this case - eco is not purpose.)

Never been scammed before and at the time I thought "Lets see what this guy wants to do".

Its an experience some people with 3 day life on EU wont want to try.

I accepted as a sort of experimentation

[NoBion]

Originally Posted by fo0d

Never been scammed before and at the time I thought "Lets see what this guy wants to do".

Its an experience some people with 3 day life on EU wont want to try.

I accepted as a sort of experimentation

Oh well. I guess he hoped you wouldent notice he had loot or something alike that. Anyhow we are down in amounts that its kinda funny.

Oh well maybe he managed to scrabe enough pec together to go get a beer afterwards on the Twins bar .

[Immortal]

In those leech-scammer cases, best thing to do is go to some remote place (like pvp1) and make sure the revive is the terminal North of there

Never coming back muahaha

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Immortal

In those leech-scammer cases, best thing to do is go to some remote place (like pvp1) and make sure the revive is the terminal North of there

Never coming back muahaha

/me likes this idea :we need an evil grin smiley:

[GradenFoss]

Sorry, I didn’t realize up to now that there is a no naming policy. I had to edit the screenshot a little.

[Xtreme Insano]

This thread is of great use, but it also can make it hard for us traders... or perferably me, lol who doesnt really have the ped or irl money to depo to trade with, and say wut u want, but i have played the game for bout 1.5 years, and have ran into many of these scams, but I, being a trader, have worked for a few people, crafters and hunters and ect, have came in contact with many suppliers of things, and so in return i have many contacts for trading.
The one set back i have, is i cant personally trade them, so its hard for me to actually trade, and i have at times, asked to borrow money from peeps to afford the trading, or asked for investments, and then while reading this, i see alot of wut i do, is seen as scams, which is sad... but i have no other way of making any money in this game, i cant depo atm, just starting a job and am saving up for college, so money is scarce as it is, let alone depositing into a online game.... So for those reading, there are those out there that may seem like scammers but are true honest people, but idk how much this will affect anything said in this thread....

Btw, + rep for this thread, it does help in exposing many scams, and has been a help to me

[Laz135]

Originally Posted by Glipster

I completely disagree with your logic. I think you have deluded yourself. Feel bad for a scammer? I think not! Whether they themselves were scammed (doubtful) or not, it's wrong. They are taking advantage of ignorance.

no sympathy here for a scammer, had a few try but no success from me and i have no problem making it very public when one trys some of the scams that i have seen, seems that most scammers when they are confronted in open chat tend to leave in a big hurry, the key is to not leave rest even after they leave. Make sure everyone in the area is aware of the scam, word spreads quick in EU