No 'pornographic content' but ....?

[Argh non Ral]

Mindark stated in EULA that we are not allowed to upload 'pornographic content'.
While still waiting for support case where they supposed to specify it more precisely what that means,
I would like to ask the community:

What do you think, where is the line between normal content, artistic akt, erotic art or the not allowed pornography?

We have kiddos ingame under 18, but we have calamusoids and even boorums

Now what should I upload from my works?
Should I upload flower makros only so there will be no problem from them?

[RedBlack]

Eh im sure this subject has been argued throughout the ages art and its boundaries . . . there is an obvious difference, you just have to figure it out for yourself, and other for themselves.

[Krrk]

If the length doesn't exceed boorums then it isn't pornography.

[Sirhc]

Its hard to define what is pornographic worldwide. Nudity may be considered pornographic in some cultures while others don't have a problem with it. My definition pornography is usually something which involves a blantant sexual act or exposure which is blantantly sexual. While many of the mutants are naked in EU and there is alot of questionable symbology in the landscape the only place I have seen something of an Erotic nature which might blur the lines to Pornography is in the Bilton Towers Wall papers.

Now if the Mutants were caught in flagrante delicto it might be a little over the top but other wise they are just a bunch of naked mutated people running around and in reality we are all naked under our clothes lol.

I have an artistic view of nudity so I don't really see it as pornography unless its taken to that level and that level is different for each and everyone of us.

I have seen more things in prime time TV that I would consider pornographic and unfit for children more than anything I have seen in EU.

So the EU pin ups, Boorums, Calamusoids, some of the Oxford art, and the sexual symbology dotted through out the EU landscape may push the envelope a bit but that depends on your own personal culture. I would use anything in EU as a gauge as to what I would upload if I feel its going beyond anything I currently see then I might be going to far. Another thing to think of is all of these things are drawn or modelled after something in RL. Uploading a RL picture of a nude might be pushing it but that is for MA to decide.

[NetStalker]

Originally Posted by Sirhc

Its hard to define what is pornographic worldwide. Nudity may be considered pornographic in some cultures while others don't have a problem with it. My definition pornography is usually something which involves a blantant sexual act or exposure which is blantantly sexual. While many of the mutants are naked in EU and there is alot of questionable symbology in the landscape the only place I have seen something of an Erotic nature which might blur the lines to Pornography is in the Bilton Towers Wall papers.

Now if the Mutants were caught in flagrante delicto it might be a little over the top but other wise they are just a bunch of naked mutated people running around and in reality we are all naked under our clothes lol.

I have an artistic view of nudity so I don't really see it as pornography unless its taken to that level and that level is different for each and everyone of us.

I have seen more things in prime time TV that I would consider pornographic and unfit for children more than anything I have seen in EU.

So the EU pin ups, Boorums, Calamusoids, some of the Oxford art, and the sexual symbology dotted through out the EU landscape may push the envelope a bit but that depends on your own personal culture. I would use anything in EU as a gauge as to what I would upload if I feel its going beyond anything I currently see then I might be going to far. Another thing to think of is all of these things are drawn or modelled after something in RL. Uploading a RL picture of a nude might be pushing it but that is for MA to decide.

Sirhc is right on the money in my opinion.

Penetration, fondeling, kiddie porn, animals, anything that violates anothers boundry, and tasteless. No need for this to be in game, if you want to view it, play with dual monitors and have it showing on the second monitor all the time for your viewing pleasure.

Regards,

[andyzammy]

thing is, u can take ur clothes off ur avatar, god knows how many lil kids we have loggin on to find avi's with a seduce miniskirt so they can tilt the camera to look up it and jerk off to their hearts content.

abolishing porn, while its a good thing, is pretty pointless imo, cause theres so much in game thats already over the line

[Sionkiewicz]

I find it laughable that the same people who paid an artist to create Erotic wallpaper depicting several sexual positions for use in their Apartments are now trying to play the decency card. They already have set the bar to be judged by.

[Iset]

I think that when it comes to the defenition of pornography, it depends on what the intended reaction is.

If you create a work with the sole purpose of people getting off; then that in my opinion is pornography. However, if you create a piece that happens to have nudity in it, but you are trying to convey some other artistic expression, then it is not.

But that I suppose all depends on how well the artist can convey their idea. Besides, if nudity is not just in nature on Earth but on Calypso as well (i.e. Boorums), then nudity itself is not pornography. But then of course, the discussion starts as to what is "tasteful" etc.... a whole new can of worms

Cheers,

Iset

[Vedder]

Hmm.. Lots of potential new 'players' if MA floods EU with pr0n.

He he... But even MA don't dare to make *that* move, I'm sure.

[Argh non Ral]

In my opinion, ART where
- primary genital organs are not displayed in premier plane,
- or not in 'action'
- and has additional artistic content and meaning
is not pornography.

Sirhc has the point.

Another thing to think of is all of these things are drawn or modelled after something in RL. Uploading a RL picture of a nude might be pushing it but that is for MA to decide.

...and i waiting for their answer.

I am against porn, and would hate to see PE flooded with it like the game... er where you can fly.