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Old 05-16-2008, 05:15   #41
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Cool event idea, I just saw it today. I have a question though, excuse my ignorance as it's late. This is just a suggestion of logic, so take it how you like it, I tend to overthink things.

Does it make more sense to have the lower mobs worth more points?
A nub like me would love to kill fouls to score points, but since you mention poker, what are the odds of globaling on them. Seems like calling all in with 2-8os

If this event is for ubers then dismiss this, but if it is for everyone, does it make more sense for the stronger mobs that most ppl will be hunting that global almost every 15min to be worth more points? My opinion is the stronger mobs that global a lot should be worth less as they will be hunted more and easier to score on. I need 5 foul globals to match one trox? I'm lucky if I global once a year on a foul or prancer, but maybe if a bunch of ppl was hunting them then they would hof more... maybe. Kinda like an event at a land area... suddenly those mobs start globaling.
This kinda has to do with a theory of mine, that what ppl hunt global...(duh).

I mean, how many times a day do you see prancer global? It might as well not even be on the list.

I would love to participate but I dont see how the scoring is fair to nubs, but I could be wrong. Let me know if I have no idea what I am talking about.
I'm not asking you to change anything, but something to concider in future event planning. You won't know how this works till you try it. Just thought I'd share my view.

Good Luck with event and +rep for taking the time & effort.
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Nice idea this but, allo and ambu on different categories? They're pretty much ~same.
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Cool event idea, I just saw it today. I have a question though, excuse my ignorance as it's late. This is just a suggestion of logic, so take it how you like it, I tend to overthink things.

Does it make more sense to have the lower mobs worth more points?
A nub like me would love to kill fouls to score points, but since you mention poker, what are the odds of globaling on them. Seems like calling all in with 2-8os

If this event is for ubers then dismiss this, but if it is for everyone, does it make more sense for the stronger mobs that most ppl will be hunting that global almost every 15min to be worth more points? My opinion is the stronger mobs that global a lot should be worth less as they will be hunted more and easier to score on. I need 5 foul globals to match one trox? I'm lucky if I global once a year on a foul or prancer, but maybe if a bunch of ppl was hunting them then they would hof more... maybe. Kinda like an event at a land area... suddenly those mobs start globaling.
This kinda has to do with a theory of mine, that what ppl hunt global...(duh).

I mean, how many times a day do you see prancer global? It might as well not even be on the list.

I would love to participate but I dont see how the scoring is fair to nubs, but I could be wrong. Let me know if I have no idea what I am talking about.
I'm not asking you to change anything, but something to concider in future event planning. You won't know how this works till you try it. Just thought I'd share my view.

Good Luck with event and +rep for taking the time & effort.
I appreciate the comments! Feedback is always a good thing and I certainly appreciate that your comments were intelligently writen instead of the normal flaming that goes on a lot here.

I tried to create a challenge for participants as well as direct people to obscure mobs. You are correct, Prancers rarely global. At the same time the cost to kill a Prancer is very low, so the risk is far less. The poker analogy again. Please note that teams are welcome, so a team of 5 noobs could wipe out the Prancer population in a few hours probably. Hunters that risk more would have to be rewarded I think. At the same time, that team of 5 noobs could easily take down some Atrox and Mermoth, and if coordinated Cersumon. Cost to kill and speed to kill are factored in as well. You cannot global until you loot a creature, so the faster the kill the more frequent the chance to global. Some might say that maturity plays a role. Can you imagine globaling on an Atrox Stalker and getting 2 points?

I think it would impossible to factor in everything to make it all 100% fair regarding the return on the investment (point awarded based on cost to kill).

Again, thanks for your comments and I hope you reconsider. As I said a well led team can do some serious damage

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Nice idea this but, allo and ambu on different categories? They're pretty much ~same.
I looked hard at those mobs, as well as Estophyl. Ambu regen health much faster it seems and the younger maturities have a lot more health, meaning cost to kill is higher. So the Ambu went to the higher category.
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Nice idea this but, allo and ambu on different categories? They're pretty much ~same.
Go and hunt Ambu Stalkers, and you'll change your mind about that
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You need hunters... here I am
Great idea !
Tell me where to meet you and I'll sign up for 10 weeks
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OK... we are up to 2 brave hunters! Who will be the next to throw their virtual hat into the ring?
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Damn, I have competition. There goes my one-global plan
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I see your point of view, bigger mobs = high cost = more points.
I also noticed that you have a bonus points if you can global on all the chosen mobs, which gives the lower mobs a purpose.
I'm usually a solo hunter, so I was just looking at it from a solo hunters point of view.

But this is an event/contest and that involves strategy, as you mentioned team hunting.

When I played it out in my mind I just figured if the low end mobs that dont global was worth more, it still wouldn't change they way ppl hunt because they don't global much anyway, so ppl probably wouldn't hunt them
even if they was worth more points as it is easier to global a few times on higher mobs.
I figured low mobs worth more would only encourage more ppl to sign up thinking they have better chance at mobs they can kill solo.

Anyway, I hope to give it go. So concider it reconcidered, maybe see you at week 2.
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