Loot cycle exposed (will not help you a lot though)

[Dorsai]

Originally Posted by aridash

this is actually false. random is very easy if you have a non-deterministic input generator. guess what you are. Or they could take a feed from any analogue source say a microphone in the office. EU maybe isnt random, but not becaue it it cant be done, but because they dont want it to be.

I never though of that. Clever, but the noise level will be high, and vary much, when the office is in use, and low at night, and tend to not vary a lot??

But I get your point.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Doer

It's not random. It's pseudorandom, at best. Most people don't believe that, and with reason: that would be ...gambling.
...

Whether computer numbers can be truly random is an irrelevant discussion.
Same arguments could be used on RL randomness, and if you look deep enough, you end up in chaos theory and eventually philosophy (determinism aka antiserendipity).

Which kinda makes the "randomness=gambling" argument moot too.


I'm sure loot is mainly randomness, but ofc with some control mechanisms.

[kalanen]

Originally Posted by aridash

random is very easy if you have a non-deterministic input generator

...like thousands of players causing disorder by using tools with varying usage of resources, different reloads, different decay, etc...

Wait, in thermal dynamics there's even word describing disorder but i can't remember what it is

[aridash]

Originally Posted by kalanen

Wait, in thermal dynamics there's even word describing disorder but i can't remember what it is

is it 6...?

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by kalanen

...
Wait, in thermal dynamics there's even word describing disorder but i can't remember what it is

He he

Entropy


(Disorder or maybe even decay)

[Legion]

Originally Posted by aridash

having thought about it a while, i can now see why some would mistakenly think its based on 8 when really its 6. If you segment 8 you get two 3's, and 2*3 is of course 6. so they are closly related enough to cause such confusion.

It's 8, if you read what i wrote it's CONFIRMED by Mindark. Ok sure the MA dude could be flat out lying to the guy he spoke to but i see no reason why he should lie.

Originally Posted by Dorsai

I used to have a ZX-Spectrum, and it had a random number system.
It had a list of random numbers stored in it's ROM.

hoho that brings back memories

Originally Posted by Adamas

I stopped reading after Post #7.
Wasting my time isn't cool.

As i said, it's confirmed..but oh well.

[kalanen]

Originally Posted by Legion

It's 8, if you read what i wrote it's CONFIRMED by Mindark. Ok sure the MA dude could be flat out lying to the guy he spoke to but i see no reason why he should lie.

MA dude confirms something about loot system and you are posting here?



HARROOO!??

[aridash]

Originally Posted by Legion

It's 8, if you read what i wrote it's CONFIRMED by Mindark. Ok sure the MA dude could be flat out lying to the guy he spoke to but i see no reason why he should lie.

no, no reason at all to give mis-information. the evidence for 6 is all around. and if you rotate the 6 you get a 9. 69. we're all giving it to each other.

[Turnsleft]

Its 6 minutes, all u gotta do is watch the hof window and determine the cycle time of hofs that appear.!! Next go to auction bring up the daily chart on any item and watch the update time, u will notice the hofs appearing in the chat window are based around the update times from the auction

[Shadow-Ale]

Legion, you make me laugh over and over again. Can you confirm that the guy you heard it from is not lying to you? There is no fact if you don't experience it yourself...

Just wondering, is it based on the moment of kill, or the moment of looting?

I think you'd be more lucky getting hit standing on a cliff, in a full body armor, waving a metal stick and shouting ugly words at the gods during a thunderstorm, than believing this thing :P

*Finds his 100ft of tin foil to make some metal armor*