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Old 06-19-2008, 11:51   #151
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This thread all comes down to the supposable us of a third party software, like PAass or an auto clicker, both of which can be used in game and are thus against the EULA. Now we can’t really prove that people use an auto clicker but if you look through the screen shots from many a poster. If PAass appears in the picture does this not warrant them been band for breach of the EULA?
This is about as stupid an idea as complaining to MA about somebody running through a mob, getting killed and gaining evade, dodge or whatever other skills they get just because they don’t respond to a hello.
When I hunt and mine I quite often use the auto run button and almost always ignore people. Mainly because I’m too drunk to type a legible answer and too lazy to keep hold of a key till I find another mob to shoot or get to my next bomb drop area.
Does this make me a cheater?
I think not
No not a cheater but someone with a problem concerning Alcohol for sure if you drink regularly so much that you cant write anymore.

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There is a difference between PEAss / Autoscreen etc. and a autoclicker, to explain this to someone which has a drinking problem I suggest put aside the bottle for 24 hours and then read it again:

PEAss does not interfere with EU, meaning it does not send Keystrokes etc. to Entropia.exe to be used to do something MA intends us humans to do.
Autoclicker, Macros is used to do things we human should do like shooting at mobs, craft etc. and is according to MA not legal in EU.

If you do not see the difference then maybe 24 hours not drinking where not enough and you better use a clinic to overcome your alcohol problem.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:06   #152
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Why do you care? It isn't directly affecting you.
I DO care! I have come across several bot users again. It was in Trax Park (big trax LA from Neverdie) and earlier in the Formidon LA above Nea's.

Both time I got killed because of them, in the Formidon LA the bot ran up SW and had lured a Falx in the Formidon LA by dieing many times so it seems. And if I shoot within the radar the Falx got agro'd on me (because I make actions and it seems hostile to the mobs) I tried speaking to him at first but I quickly realized it was a bot in action. Later he got stuck behind the turret where he respawned because annother avatar was spawned there just before him, so he got a bit of track thank god.

In the Trax LA the bot triggered several times some Trax Stalkers and it killed me a couple of times. So I left the radius.

At first I did not experienced any difficulties or trouble with the bot users, but this time they DID affect my game-experience by killing me while Im hunting.

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Old 06-19-2008, 12:47   #153
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Why do you care? It isn't directly affecting you.
It actually do. MA calculate the average timespan for progress in skills to
set EU up so we don't get to fast or to slow progress.
If people skill up in a way that isn't normal, they most probably progress
faster than expected. They don't nerf skillsystem due to pure evilness,
there is a reason why they nerf it frequently...
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I found a bot user in the big Hogg LA E of Segna some days ago.

She ran the same course for hours no end. I had noticed her the runs I did earlier and she was still at it when I came back. First I asked her if she needed help to get out of the LA since I thought she was stuck.
That was before I started observing her.
She had at least been there for 6-7 hours that day. If she had done it constantly since the last time I had visited the LA, then probably well over 12 hours.

She ran the same course, over and over and over again. from revive and ran into a pipe at the fertalizer station, bounced off the pipe and ran off.
It didnt take much to understand it was a bot in action. She never learned to dodge that pipe Anyway, I went to stand next to the pipe to see if I was able to trap her.

And I did. She got trapped between the pipe and me. I stood like that for 20 minutes. She didnt log off, didnt turn around to run the other way. Stood still for 20 minutes, while I wrote a supportcase.

When I moved, she started running the same course again.



Within 24 hours MA had responded to my Support:

Hi,
Thanks for reporting and for contributing to making Entropia Universe a better and fairer place to be. Please rest assured that we will further investigate this and that appropriate action will be taken.

Kind regards,
Entropia Support


and the next run I did in the Hog LA, the botter was gone. Coincidence, maybe. I hope not
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I found a bot user in the big Hogg LA E of Segna some days ago.

She ran the same course for hours no end. I had noticed her the runs I did earlier and she was still at it when I came back. First I asked her if she needed help to get out of the LA since I thought she was stuck.
That was before I started observing her.
She had at least been there for 6-7 hours that day. If she had done it constantly since the last time I had visited the LA, then probably well over 12 hours.

She ran the same course, over and over and over again. from revive and ran into a pipe at the fertalizer station, bounced off the pipe and ran off.
It didnt take much to understand it was a bot in action. She never learned to dodge that pipe Anyway, I went to stand next to the pipe to see if I was able to trap her.

And I did. She got trapped between the pipe and me. I stood like that for 20 minutes. She didnt log off, didnt turn around to run the other way. Stood still for 20 minutes, while I wrote a supportcase.

When I moved, she started running the same course again.



Within 24 hours MA had responded to my Support:

Hi,
Thanks for reporting and for contributing to making Entropia Universe a better and fairer place to be. Please rest assured that we will further investigate this and that appropriate action will be taken.

Kind regards,
Entropia Support


and the next run I did in the Hog LA, the botter was gone. Coincidence, maybe. I hope not
Pretty useless to run in mega big mobs with monster dmg if you only have regenerated your HP over the few minutes you got from reviving to death again. If there is a smart bot user they should cope with smaller mobs for the same result (maybe you wont get killed with the first attack and gain more than just 1 skill (if you gain 1 at all))
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Pretty useless to run in mega big mobs with monster dmg if you only have regenerated your HP over the few minutes you got from reviving to death again. If there is a smart bot user they should cope with smaller mobs for the same result (maybe you wont get killed with the first attack and gain more than just 1 skill (if you gain 1 at all))
Maybe she expected she'd get a skill bonus because it was a bigger mob

I cant say I know her intentions, but it was most certainly not a person running the avatar
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I can tell you from my own experience (not from running a bot) that doing the same with smaller mobs makes no sense. Example: if you decide to skill dodge with Falxes (only smaller ones though, up to provi I think), you will get more dodge gains that you can get from let's say tezla or bristle. Which doesn't change the fact, that fighting drones or hunting bristles or cersu is much faster way of skilling dodge anyway.
Funny thing is that I started seeing more often bots after the case with few well known botterz. Now there is no week without seeing at least one bot somewhere... Pretty sad, as it looks like MA is not able to address this problem and they have no solution for this...
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well in my opinion I think Ma says it clearly....... U are on your own.

think people should worry about something else.

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This thread all comes down to the supposable us of a third party software, like PAass or an auto clicker, both of which can be used in game and are thus against the EULA. Now we can’t really prove that people use an auto clicker but if you look through the screen shots from many a poster. If PAass appears in the picture does this not warrant them been band for breach of the EULA?
This is about as stupid an idea as complaining to MA about somebody running through a mob, getting killed and gaining evade, dodge or whatever other skills they get just because they don’t respond to a hello.
When I hunt and mine I quite often use the auto run button and almost always ignore people. Mainly because I’m too drunk to type a legible answer and too lazy to keep hold of a key till I find another mob to shoot or get to my next bomb drop area.
Does this make me a cheater?
I think not

Seams after some weeks he woke up of his last alcohol delirium and noticed a -rep from me and returned the favour with a -rep in return.

One free tip, dont drink and drive or do anything with real money when too drunk got the point - rofl


PS: It is a great honor to get a -rep from persons like you because it tells a lot about the person, especially when they admit to have a drinking problem
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