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Old 03-15-2008, 14:57   #41
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MA took action against such ppl, when they ran constantly into hordes of robots to skill dodge. Just for your record.
So?? That was over a year and a half ago if memory serves and they only took action after getting a torrent of complaints from the people participating in the BOT event that was happening then. The Avatars were dragging all the BOTS away and making it difficult to kill them. This individual is in the middle of nowhere and not effecting anyone.

They also went after the Ubers who were BOT HUNTING.. It's within MA's right to do this and I'm not desputing that. My question was what harm would this individual be doing to the USER COMMUNITY by BOTTING EVADE???

I could give a rat's ass if it effects MA. They've bent the user community over enough so if they lose a little evade I don't see the harm. They can take the cost out of my clothing repairs..

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Old 03-15-2008, 21:23   #42
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Jam your W (Q, whatever) key down with a paperclip and recieve the same results! No third party software or equipment required
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Now u can put a heavy item on the W key and when the ava dies, it will auto revive in 10 seconds and start walking forward. So yes, the last patch did it much easier.
No need for fancy bot programs or autoclickers anymore.
I love people who write crap about things they have no clue. Frist off, that would make it any better than using 3rd party software, since both would cheating (let a programm or an item control your avatar while you're not there/you don't controll it yourself).

On the otherside, if you'd ever tried if yourself, you'd know that it doesn't work with putting a heavy item on the W key. Your avatar wont move after death until you repress the W key. Hence, this can only be done by 3rd party software (or hardware like a lego robot repeatly pressing on that key). No matter what, both is cheating. And there is no argument, which can make it not cheating.

And i'm sure to say, that everyone who defense such botters are cheaters themselve.

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If i put something heavy on my R key and wait for my avy to revive and keep runing everytime, am i using a bot ?

Still you should mind your own business, MA can see if someone is using a program which is not allowed btw autoclick can do that too, why should it be allowed for crafting and not for running ?
1. No it wont work, for the reasons posted above.
2. Obviously they can't and/or are to lazy to programm countermessures for it.
3. Who said that autoclickers for crafting are allowed? People who use autoclickers for crafting are on same level with the cheater scum who uses macros/bots to gain free skill while not controling their character themselves and also same as the people who use bugs/design flaws to their own benefit (aka exploiters)
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Old 03-15-2008, 22:44   #43
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OH MY GAWD! ITS NOT FAIR!

Judging by your signature it seems that you feel as though you have been slighted somehow by this game.

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And i'm sure to say, that everyone who defense such botters are cheaters themselve.
So, if I was to say that you are a cheater (with as good pics as we have here, which are circumstantial at best) anyone saying that you are not would be a cheater also?

Great logic. Glad you don't write the rules around here..

Ok, how about this scenerio?

What if the person shut off all chat channels long ago (from the pics, he's a freelancer so maybe he's just anti-social??) and was actually running the controls? He revives, turns in the same direction and then hits R, turns and goes back to watching his soaps.

Would this be considered Botting? If it is, I guess we all are guilty from time to time.
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Many player did say to click craft machine while watching TV...

I am personally very often afk in front of auction , or craft machine , because i play always in window mode , and code som page for my site,watch movie or read this forum.


As for free evade while running , a simple rule would solve that , you need to shot a mob to get skill from it.
The pro is not more free skilling , the con is , many hunter will whine that they get skill from only 1 mobs , even if 10 shot at them,or that they need to shot regulary 3 or 4 mobs when they are under heavy attack.

The good part is that would also remove the auto fap(because MA failed to code properly that mobs go away if no action...)
The whole afk evade skilling could have been fixed ages ago.
When MA finally logged ingame and saw what happened they "balanced" situation by nerfing gains for those who didn't afk-fap for months in row.
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For the OP, I think the Screen shots you have provided show an avatar that has chosen to constantly run in the same direction, hopefully into a group of MOBS to skill Evade. I can do the same thing without a bot or scripting program. I don't really see anything that would tell me that the person is not there to operate the keyboard. Basically, if you suspect him, send the screenshots to MA and report him. Trying to "out" him here only makes you violate the rules of the forum since names are not to be included in claims of wrongdoing.

Now if this guy was botting.. WHAT IS HE HURTING??

I know, he's gaining skills unfairly. He's violating the EULA.

But is he ruining anyone's gaming experience with his actions? Is he pulling money out of the loot pool when he runs into a crowd of MOBS and dies? What EXACT HARM is he causing to the user base?

Don't get me wrong, I have had the same opinion in the past as you have but since MA has nerfed EVERYTHING and made it hard to gain ANY skills in this game, I think it's fair to try anything to get ahead at this point. F&$% it!
Agreed, let's rather talk about really important issues like:

Where are the Cash Cards?
Where are the Foot Guards?
Why are some allowed to run multiple avatars?
When will the hyperinflation hit the roof?
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The whole afk evade skilling could have been fixed ages ago.
When MA finally logged ingame and saw what happened they "balanced" situation by nerfing gains for those who didn't afk-fap for months in row.
GJ MA.
I think they was very aware about the situation.
IMHO , they did lets all that go on purpose , waiting for som player to get hight in skill before nerfing...
They need "uber" for people to look up...
MA did not carre who was , and still dont , they just need them to exist...
Watch evry profession closelly , and you will see that all have bug for skill up fast and cheap for som time , and then the nerfing beggin...
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ill be honest with you. i have been accused of botting or ACing several times in CND. because i stand behind the pilots and constantly scan them. i usually sit on my couch and click away as i watch tv. so i don't respond to anything. i checked the screen once and found people calling me a botter and threatening to report me. so i say to all of you; make sure the person is ACing or whatnot and make sure you are not causing anyone any problems. make sure they are guilty before you go off reporting them. i do understand that it looks like i am cheating. but so far there is no rule that says i have to be at my comp watching myself click. oh and BTW i also do this on mining claim (once mobs are cleared around it.)
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I wanted to blast some Tezlapods in Oshiri, and I noticed a dude walking East.
He ran out of the radar. I continued walking and shot a couple Tezla's
Then annother or the same dude popped-up West of the radar and walked in a straight line towards a group T-pods and died shortly after.

I immediatly though about a bot or macro.

And yes a few minutes later the same fella appeared West on the radar.
I already killed the group Pods, and he walked further and died again.

The next time I tried to bump into him but no succes, and he continued to die again form some Tezla's

are you Entropia's police force?

I think not, let things be if they are not hurting you

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I think they was very aware about the situation.
IMHO , they did lets all that go on purpose , waiting for som player to get hight in skill before nerfing...
They need "uber" for people to look up...
MA did not carre who was , and still dont , they just need them to exist...
Watch evry profession closelly , and you will see that all have bug for skill up fast and cheap for som time , and then the nerfing beggin...
Yep, I've said this for a long time too. When they had enough of players at
different levels, they toke action.
This pyramide will always excist, they will never let people who aren't in top
reach the top unless some up there quit, sell out or just chip out.
This has (hopefully) nothing to do with the name of the player, it's due to
stats of all avatars.
IMO, MA made the mistake to make a system where avatars become more
efficient when skilling up, and not less unefficient, sadly...
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