100 sweat into giving free clothes to noobs

[Snabble]

I want to start a project also and its basd on the fact people have peds lying around they, well lets face, they just dont want
I know i wont be trading anything for the peds you give me, but fuk, why should i have to work for my peds like the rest of you have, thats just not fair and besides im lazy as all get out..
So if you sitting around saying, hey i only have 200 ped for a hunt, thats not even enough to do a good hunt, I ask, give me the peds because obviously if your willing to just throw peds away to this scammer who pretty much is just gonna keep the peds under the pretexts of "helping" noobies, i promise you one thing a noobie will never promise... I will not quit 10 minutes after the noobies who get these shirts tt them for ammo...I will use for peds for evade and maybe even new armor..and i will still be playing long after all the noobs who got free shirts have said bye bye to this game cause well, if they cant play all month from tting that shirt this guy gave them, hell this game probably isnt worth it..

remeber if you feeling charitable give me your peds because i will respect them and use them wisely and as i said before I will turn the peds you give me into a profit, which brings me to my next point, Investment funds.....

[RedThothCrowley]

Well, I don't see the need to post an attacing message really. I have not asked anything from anyone for me. This project has nothing to do with ME making money. And I am a depositor, so the lazy stuff is just rude. The fact is, as I explained, I want to do something for noobs and involve the community while I am at it. Some people have taken interest and made donations. Noone before you posted a rude message, even if they were against this project. If you are not interested, that is fine. I appreciate that not all players will take part. But why waste your time attacking me for trying to be nice.

That being said, thanks again to everyone who has gotten involved so far. I hope it continues.

[Snabble]

No im just attacking you cause ive been around long enough to know a scam when i see one...
If your a depositer then go spend your peds to help the noobies, but dont drag everyone else into it...
I already see alot of people who are pissed off for falling for investment funds and every other scam under the sky and to be honest, your just a frickin beggar trying to disguise yourself as a "helper of noobies"
You can say anything you want but asking for free peds for any reason in a game where real money is involved is a scammer, beggar call it whatever you want, but your definatly not helping the players the noobies or leaving a very good impression of yourself to anyone...

(now your gonna try to explain why im wrong but the fact is your begging and only the lowest lifeforms in this game do that)

I just want you to know, I actually care about players who 1 work hard for their peds and 2 try to be honest people about this very tough game.. Im only exposing you for what you are because i know someone people might fall for your scam, and i just want them to know this is a scam, before they throw their money away to the likes of you. Im not attacking you Im just trying to steer people away from you because i care not for just noobies but all players.

[RedThothCrowley]

I understand your frustrtion with scammers as one of my soc mates has had a recent run in with a rue scammer. You are free to believe what you will, but I am gaining a small reputation for giving away free armor pieces when I find them. And had you read all the way back, I have put some of my own money into this. I will be continuing to do so.

Your direct attacks on my intentions are unwarranted.

[Snabble]

Originally Posted by RedThothCrowley

I understand your frustrtion with scammers as one of my soc mates has had a recent run in with a rue scammer. You are free to believe what you will, but I am gaining a small reputation for giving away free armor pieces when I find them. And had you read all the way back, I have put some of my own money into this. I will be continuing to do so.

Your direct attacks on my intentions are unwarranted.

I never said giving noobies free stuff is bad....I gave noobies free stuff from my time to my knowledge to my peds, but that doesnt mean im come on here and say,And i think you should give me peds so i can keep giving noobies free stuff, cause that is a scam simply because, after i give you stuff to give to noobies their is no accounting as to whether you actually give noobies the free stuff i gave you, so its all in your word, and I can say i give everyone free stuff all the time but that doesnt make it so...

Thats why its a scam.. Cause if your low enough to beg for for free peds on Ef then your low enough to go ahead and keep all the peds and items given to you..

You act like this is the first post like this ever on EF...
I personally think begging posts should be banned or have their own section
I think this game is full of generous people who are very easy to take advanatge of, and for me to sit here and not say something is actually doing more harm than good.

[RedThothCrowley]

You say a scam is just me trying to do this in this fashion. But if I get this done, and have a mass give away, does not not disprove your theory of this being a scam?

Don't I have to promise something and not come through for it to be a scam?

Is everyone you do not know an untrustworthy person?

Really. Give me a break!

[Snabble]

Originally Posted by RedThothCrowley

You say a scam is just me trying to do this in this fashion. But if I get this done, and have a mass give away, does not not disprove your theory of this being a scam?

Don't I have to promise something and not come through for it to be a scam?

Is everyone you do not know an untrustworthy person?

Really. Give me a break!

No you dont have to promise something and not come thru with it to be a scam...
A player can set the loot queue to even split and then use a tiny gun and still get half the loot, thats a scam
A player can ask for free items for any reason and its not just begging its scamming cause someone is getting scammed outta peds, when when you say its for cancer research or for helping noobies then its a huge scam

THE SCAM IS THE FACT your asking for free peds, lying about what they are for, and then trying to boost yourself up as some great noobie helper...

I see people all the time, well i used to who went to Tp's where noobies are and put free pec on the ground and watched noobies pick them up.. this is not a scam this is honest charity....
This is a scam because your acting as a middle man, You give me your peds and ill make sure noobies get them...

as far as trust, look people who are outstanding in the game and who people like and trust have scammed me outta hofs by makiing me feel bad they didnt get as much of the hof as I did,even though they did way less damage,
EU and trust do not exist.. I know of one of the most uber "trust worthy" players in the game and well known, who simply borrowed a 200k items and because the guy owed him some money kept it on the grounds, well you owe me 10k so ill hold your 200k item til you pay up...Thats also a scammer a crook and someone i wouldnt trust, yet some idolize these people like they can do no wrong...
EVERYONE in this game will scam you outta peds if they can get away with it...
just like you

[RedThothCrowley]

You are directly calling me a liar. How is it that you came to the conclusion that I am lying? You made it up, that's how.

It sounds to me like you are attacking me because of some bad things that happened to you. And if that's the case, I am sorry for your loss.

If people want to help me with this project, then fine. If they do not, that is also fine. But there is really no reason you should aim your anger in my direction. Not only have I done nothing to you. I have done nothing to anyone who has donated items to this cause.

You can see it as a scam if you like, but I know what is true. I want to make a large give away happen because it will be FUN!!! That's right, fun.

The amount of PEDs I have put into this already are way over the small amount of sweat, etc. that has been given to me. But every little bit helps to make this dream come true.

And when and if I actually get to do a huge give away, I'd love for you to stop in and watch. Maybe it will show you that not everyone is a jerk, like you portray me to be.

[RedThothCrowley]

Thanks to Staffas for his donation of a Mannell Shoes bp, 40 sweat and 1 Wool Cloth. I appreciate the help and the vote of confidence!

Still looking to make the first trade for the sweat I have for this project. Anyone up for it?

[Bones]

Personally , I donated 2k sweat to Red in the hope that it will help him with his cause. I could care less if he later decides to use the sweat to make ME and sell it at a profit , or just put it in the tt and get a fraction of a pec.

I never donate anything with the hope of being recognized as a philanthropist or the savior of the nooby race.

I believe he has good intentions and will hold true to his word to help other players. If it happened that he did fail on his word , then I would not be out anything at all but the 2k sweat. If by chance I would have donated 2k ped instead of the sweat , and he then did not hold up to his stated intentions , I again would only be out the 2k ped , but would have gained a true lesson of what a person is worth , so the loss would be acceptable. I have never been scammed and never will since I am fully congnizant and the choices I make are thought out to their possible conclusions.

I am somewhat confused as to why the attack from you "Snabble" has progressed past the first warning you had issued. I believe it was well intentioned , but it is also obvious that a point can be drilled too far.

Hopefully this thread can get back to its original intentions and Red will someday be able to deliver on his dream of clothing the noobs.

Peace

Bones