What makes PE great game?

[Tenbreaker]

Lets start with basics, PE is a game, if you play something its a game. Some of you like to say that PE isnt game, its virtual universe...

Only thing that separates PE from other games is that its really expensive to play...Everything you do here, you can do in other games too. You can hunt, mine, craft and form sociatys in other games too. Graphics in PE are from stoneage and lag is terrible, still MA is only interested in things like adding advertise screens, even if they make lag even worse...

Is it the withdraw that makes PE so great? Now most of people start to play because of the "real money economy"... Soon they discover that they will never get as much money as they have put in. But they still like the game and think that they can pay little for playing it... But soon they discover that "little" isnt even near enough to play this game... If i play 3 hours/day and 8hours/day on weekend, it will cost me something like 200dollars/week at least... Other games cant beat that.

Now some of you will tell me that i can play with 20dollars/month "if i play smart"...

Hunting snables with opalo isnt "playing", thats why i dont play pvp games using only knife or poker with only one card. I can chat for free but internet is full of chatrooms where i can log in without pasword or goldcard...

I can buy and sell skill in PE, thats great. But why should i pay lot of money to buy skills, when i cant see any difference between 1k and 5k? Every time i go to some other game, im very shocked when skills actually make my avatar better. Im starting to think that it might be the point of skill system... Here you must have like 10k skills to make any difference, too bad you cant get that much skills anymore if you dont play next 80 years or use your visa very hard...

Some of you like to say that community makes PE so great...

Have you ever even asked your socmates or friends in PE what other MMORPG's they play? Many people here play other games too, so how can the community in other games be so much worse if its even the same people?

How about support? If you pay hundreds of dollars to play some game, you would think that you could even get somekind of friendly support...

It seems that if you report a bug or be rude enough to complain about something, the answer is usually something like fu we know it already stop wasting our time... If there is some bug that costs money to MA, they will fix it in few hours, still there is bugs that costs money to players that have been around for months or even years and they still dont seem to have any need to fix them...

I know that many things in my post has been in other threads many times before, but i havent ever seen any real answer to:

What makes PE so much better than other games that its worth to pay 10times more than other games?

Video that keeps running in screens says it all:
"Take L out of PLAY"... thats the only thing in PE that isnt

[Mooze]

The fact is that Project Entropia isn't a plain video game, it's a virtual universe (and this is no bs). And that may be why you don't enjoy your experience ... you try to "use" Project Entropia like you would do with World of Warcraft or Counter Strike. That's the problem ! You can't play PE, you can't have fun 24h/24h, you have to (virtualy ^^) live it.

I don't know if I've been clear.

[Tenbreaker]

Basically you are saying that if Blizzard would say that wow isnt a game but virtual universe, it would be..?

Thats just what im saying, only excuse MA have for not getting they game work is that "it isnt a game..."

[Mooze]

No, but it's like if you were comparing a RPG and a FPS, they don't have the same gameplay but they are both video games.

Project-Entropia is a MMORPG, but you can't play it like WoW or EQ2, etc.

[Lykke]

I think one main thing in PE is different from other games. You make your own history. You go your own ways. I play other online games (yes I do .... *shrugs*) ... and the history and way of playing there is all the same. you get specific quests - the same quests like thousands of others. You can share those quests, yes - ideas and experiences, but nothing is "special" or unike like in PE. More likely, someone did it before you - if not a lot! Other games are GAMES. You play for other reasons - to reach goals, get to levels. You do that in PE too, yes - but a level is not just a level in PE. There are so many other things in it! PE is a lifestyle!

Yes, grafic might not be the best, but it has its charm. Yes, game is laggy, but the possibility to make something unusual in PE - something you didnt expect would happend, draw you back into the game. Not two days are alike in PE - not for me that is. Exactly the boreness is, what made me leave other games.

Community? Well they are NOT alike. I play other games were I can see the maturity is not what it is in PE. It might be the economy in PE that makes PE different in that way too. For myself that means, that its easier to find like-minded players!

And yes, you pay! If you want to! As far as I know, that is not a secret, is it?

[Nitrosomonas]

I like the fact that it's hard to get money
in other mmo's you can just hunt (which becomes enourmesly boring after a month) and you got loads of money which just piles up in your inventory...

skilling in other games? i mostly don't get to that... it's just too boring, it's just slash here, slash there, or mine this, mine that.... I hope you get my point.
In PE I don't get bored cause i need to think about my action of not getting broke (I don't put much money in the game) so i gotta play "smart" (without reselling or trading, that's just plain boring )

I can honestly say that PE is the first mmo ever that can really keep interest a long time ^^

That's what's great about PE...
THE CHALLENGE

edit: i did play one other game where it was not easy to get crafting materials end also had decay, but that was because it was underpopulated, and i was just fighting to get skills (very slow) untill i could get the materials myself

[JackFree]

Seems you have answered the questions for yourself, so what do you expect?

Lets start with basics, PE is a game, if you play something its a game. Some of you like to say that PE isnt game, its virtual universe...

Ok, call it what you will, it is still PE...

Now some of you will tell me that i can play with 20dollars/month "if i play smart"...

Yes you can, and you can also play for free as some do, the ones complaining about the costs are usually those that deposit too much and expect to make money in very little time. I don't know how many times I've said this, but PE is not going to pay your rent. You can pay if you want to, if not you can still play except you won't have all the uber toys. What other MMORPG lets you play for free?

Some of you like to say that community makes PE so great...

I think it is one of the stronger points about PE, multi-cultural, friendly and mostly more mature participants. I love the PE and EF community!

How about support? If you pay hundreds of dollars to play some game, you would think that you could even get somekind of friendly support...

Support had always handled my cases in a friendly manner, not always to my liking, but I can't complain. Compared to some other support centers I have had experience with, PE support rocks! So try to keep it in perspective...

What makes PE so much better than other games that its worth to pay 10times more than other games?

The main thing that makes it better is that you do not have to pay 10 times more, it is the freedom to pay as much or as little as you want that makes PE great. It is for everyone to decide for themselves.

This sort of discussion has been beaten to death by now...

Cheers

[Molly]

I agree with Lykke. There's no rigidly defined areas that you can and can't go into to suit your level, you can walk anywhere and do what you want without dying instantly. PE rewards individual achievements a lot more than other games, in that you have to play smart yourself to get anywhere without losing vast amounts of money, instead of mindlessly hacking monsters forever, and there's nothing you can't accomplish on your own given enough time and money.

But the main draw for me is that it's played for real money. I play ~10 hours/week for about $15/month, so it's no more expensive that other games. I've played other games and just completely lost all motivation to play after a couple of months because everything you do is inconsequential. In PE there's always the chance of getting that uber loot and becoming famous for a day, or maybe getting enough to withdraw (although I'd probably only consider that if it was 10k PED or more). You don't get that buzz from a valuable loot in any other game (or I don't, anyway).

[e-lite]

Firstly, PE isn't a "Game"
What makes it great is the economy and the complexibility of it. Also the grade of difficulty makes it interesting. Games like WoW doesn't do much for me. When I played WoW during beta I maxed out everything in just 8-9 weeks. Way too easy.

[Vedder]

Tenbreaker, that's an awful title for a really long MA/PE bashing post.
I expected a list of GOOD things here, not just another whining/bashing tread.

What makes PE great then? (it must be really great since your still here, even though you think all those things you listed suck so much)

I think these things seperate PE from most other mmorgs:

1. Real money... It's possible to make money here, though it's not easy. It takes big investments, lots of patience or a LOT of luck. Even if I never expect to make money in PE, it still helps keeping PE more exiting. Finding a nice armor you have no use for, quickly stops being interesting in most other games, but in PE it's always nice to find some armor worth $50 or whatever. Keeps PE interesting forever I think.
2. PE is far more complex, than most other games... When you have been here fro 3 months, you still don't know half of it. Some never will. This might not appeal to everybody, but those who stays here for a long time, probably like it as much as I do.
3. There's no skill cap' so you don't 'finish' PE in 6 months. This long term involvement in PE means that your virtual friends becomes more important, since you have known them for a longer time
4. It's sfi-fi and not the usual fantasy environment. Again, for some a good thing and not for others.
5. PE is a 'first' in many ways... Many things happening in PE has never happened before. Like the TI/CND sells. The real money. Soon (acc. to MA and ND) live 'virtual' concerts'. In-game advertizing... And much more in the future I hope.
6. PE makes headlines. (A quality that I'm sure some people like)

Hmm.. That's what I can think of right now, which makes PE different from most other games.