To All The Whiners... This Is The REAL Way To Win BIG...

[Henceforth]

Originally Posted by ruskea

it doesnt really matter what the decay is when u just simply cannot get any LOOT!!! or does the better gear also increase ur loot gain?

This is what I am saying all the time, eco dont mean shit is you dont get loot, but on the other hand if you hunt eco and you have all loss the loss is a bit less than if you hunt non eco.

Originally Posted by Jamhot

Treasure Island
The Malls
The Banks
New Planets?.....


Jamhot

That Treasure Island is nice but also something completely different than other LA's (all special mobs where no DNA of exist)
The banks are imho the biggest failure ingame (think about this post over about 1 year (1 bank should be way enough))
The malls are nice, but I think only twinpeaks mall is doing good, that Emerald lakes thing is deserted, and PA mall is also nearly half fulled.
(If you realy search something you end up running malls and still wont find it or way over auction value)

New planets? Tell me more..

[ruskea]

Originally Posted by Will Henceforth

This is what I am saying all the time, eco dont mean shit is you dont get loot, but on the other hand if you hunt eco and you have all loss the loss is a bit less than if you hunt non eco.

finally someone whos not saying "if u hunt eco ull make profit on every run!!"

love those guys who ask "do u hunt economic" when u do -300ped on a hunt...

it would maybe drop the decay for 10ped... but still it doesnt bring the 290ped from anywhere

[LeeYap]

Originally Posted by kira-red

the above here is a good example of whining, in my opinion. I'm sorry, Bonna, but you are so wrong that I don't even know where to begin. to put it bluntly, if you are getting 20% returns and this is on a good day for you, then you have no clue about what you're doing.

you shouldn't be offering people advice. instead, you might want to do some research and find out what you're doing wrong. being stubborn and blaming others (like MA) for your mistakes is surely the path to frustration.

I couldn't disagree with you more kira-red and I think MA would also.

It's built into the system to simply give you nothing from time to time. My WHINE is how they did it to me in this particular case.

I'm not not a WHINE and do nothing person though, I've simply adjusted my playing time down about 80% to compensate

Support did give a very prompt response though.

See bolded text below.

12 Nov 2007 You wrote:
Since VU 9 my avatar has been doing rather poorly. My returns on hunts have been about 20% of ammo costs, the highest being about 40%. My avatar is a Lvl 34 Laser pistoleer, yet using a Korss H400 5 and 6 missed shots IN A ROW are frequent. About 95% of the time, my first shot is a miss, (shows no damage), however it also always get the MOB's attention as though it had been hit. I always use an AMP on my Korss H400. Usually an A103, however I'd guesstimate the damage it has been doing is in the lower 1/3 of the guns damage range WITHOUT AN AMP 60% of the time. Could you pls check my avatar or something?

13 Nov 2007 Entropia Support:
Hi,

It is regrettable that you feel this way. However, you have been with us for a long time and you are probably aware of that we cannot discuss issues referring to the core dynamic of the Entropia Universe. There are numerous reasons for this. However, what we can reveal is that we have not implemented any changes in the distribution of the loot or in the general loot system. The return calculated as a percentage today, is no different from before. The dynamic feature of Entropia Universe has the effect that you sometimes have good times and sometimes not so good. Maybe it does not look too bright for you now, but we can ensure you that your luck will turn sooner or later. Thanks for your patience and your participation in Entropia Universe.Kind regards,Entropia Support

13 Nov 2007 You wrote:
Yea I know. I only wrote because a few other avatars said I should, now I can go told you so, told you so! nah nah! :p

It is quite troubling to me that a weapon that performed very well for me at a lvl 13 skill level doesn't perform as well at a lvl 35, (not even close). Makes me wonder what the point of skills or (L) weapons specs are all about. I'm sure the answer is embedded deep in the core of the virtual universe, so it shall forever be a wonderment to me.

It certainly gives me a better understanding of Marco's statement that players turn over about every 6-12 months though. I think it's regrettable I feel this way also. I wonder why I pay money to do something that makes me feel so stupid, perhaps I should stick with maths or something, at least with maths the rules make sense.

Kinder regards,

Avatar Einar Lee Yap

23 Nov 2007 Entropia Support:
Hello and thank you for the update. There is unfortunately not much else that we can add to this case so it will now be closed. Please don't hesitate to contact us again.Regards,Entropia Support

[PkmX]

To be honest, I'm interested how people can get 20% return every hunt, I hope you can provide a video of your hunt so we all will know how bad the loot is, I'm curious how every hogglo you kill will never loot over 2 PED or 80% of big atroxes you kill are no looters so you can get <20% return on your hunt. Please enlighten me!

I also want to know, as some people stated "I lose every hunt and I never profit", why you still play when you know you will definitely lose $30 per hour by clicking?

[LeeYap]

Originally Posted by PkmX

To be honest, I'm interested how people can get 20% return every hunt, I hope you can provide a video of your hunt so we all will know how bad the loot is, I'm curious how every hogglo you kill will never loot over 2 PED or 80% of big atroxes you kill are no looters so you can get <20% return on your hunt. Please enlighten me!

I also want to know, as some people stated "I lose every hunt and I never profit", why you still play when you know you will definitely lose $30 per hour by clicking?

Well, missing 5 and 6 shots in a row, in addition to the gun not doing dmg, throw in a few no looters, and no high loots.... um what dun you understand?

[Jamhot]

Originally Posted by Will Henceforth

New planets? Tell me more..

Your initial point was that , if you where to approach MA with $250,000 that they wouldn't work out a deal for you to have an LA or whatever.

I honestly think they would. And there are and have been many instances where one can buy into the game like the CND purchase and there will be many more in the future.

MA have already stated that a seperate games company who they hinted should be their rival are actually developing a planet for EU which is to come next year, along with the Cryengine.

There will be factories and new planets and so much more, use some imagination! There will be plenty more CND type investment opportunities for sure. It's not as unique a purchase as you make out.

Granted , it was a sweet deal , and i imagine anyone putting anything to MA now planets wise or anything else would have to be talking $1,000,000 at least maybe more who knows?

The Banks and Malls and such might not be seen to be making money right now, but in 2 years maybe people will be saying about those purchases what they say about Treasure Island and CND now. In EU you always gotta be thinking of the long game and especially in big money purchases.
If only everyone possessed the foresight and optimism that the people who buy these things have, then maybe there wouldn't be so many pessimistic people around.

All the best.

Jamhot

[jambon]

Originally Posted by LeeYap

Well, missing 5 and 6 shots in a row, in addition to the gun not doing dmg, throw in a few no looters, and no high loots.... um what dun you understand?

Well there's your problem. lol stop using a gun that you obviously don't have the skills to be using effectivly. If you have the right skills you will only miss 1 in every 30+ shots... as well without the right skills your not gonna do the max dmg... so basically while the gun may LOOK better when you check out the stats it's really costing you a fortune to use. Limiting your expenses when hunting will lead to a less painful loss should you not get much loot.

And as for the loots... well some times certain mobs in certain location just don't pay out... if after killing like 10 mobs and you only get 1 or 2 looters... do yourself a favor and go to another place.

Remember Entropia is a computer game. It functions under the same laws as all computer application. Using rules such as random number generators. A computer generate "random" numbers based of a seed value it will get from various locations depending on the programing e.g date, time... and sometimes these seed numbers can lead to a trend in the numbers generated. Leading to patterns in gameplay. For example every Tuesday the 12th may lead to a seed # of 42... and 42 translates to a lot of no loot mobs spawning north of twin... etc. So, don't be afraid to change location. And for the love of lootius don't follow the crazed belief that an area with a lot of no looters = a BIG hof in the area. 9 outta 10 times you'll just end up walking away with 20% return.

Best of luck

[In Love With]

Originally Posted by LeeYap

I couldn't disagree with you more kira-red and I think MA would also.

It's built into the system to simply give you nothing from time to time. My WHINE is how they did it to me in this particular case.

I'm not not a WHINE and do nothing person though, I've simply adjusted my playing time down about 80% to compensate

Support did give a very prompt response though.

See bolded text below.

12 Nov 2007 You wrote:
Since VU 9 my avatar has been doing rather poorly. My returns on hunts have been about 20% of ammo costs, the highest being about 40%. My avatar is a Lvl 34 Laser pistoleer, yet using a Korss H400 5 and 6 missed shots IN A ROW are frequent. About 95% of the time, my first shot is a miss, (shows no damage), however it also always get the MOB's attention as though it had been hit. I always use an AMP on my Korss H400. Usually an A103, however I'd guesstimate the damage it has been doing is in the lower 1/3 of the guns damage range WITHOUT AN AMP 60% of the time. Could you pls check my avatar or something?

13 Nov 2007 Entropia Support:
Hi,

It is regrettable that you feel this way. However, you have been with us for a long time and you are probably aware of that we cannot discuss issues referring to the core dynamic of the Entropia Universe. There are numerous reasons for this. However, what we can reveal is that we have not implemented any changes in the distribution of the loot or in the general loot system. The return calculated as a percentage today, is no different from before. The dynamic feature of Entropia Universe has the effect that you sometimes have good times and sometimes not so good. Maybe it does not look too bright for you now, but we can ensure you that your luck will turn sooner or later. Thanks for your patience and your participation in Entropia Universe.Kind regards,Entropia Support

13 Nov 2007 You wrote:
Yea I know. I only wrote because a few other avatars said I should, now I can go told you so, told you so! nah nah! :p

It is quite troubling to me that a weapon that performed very well for me at a lvl 13 skill level doesn't perform as well at a lvl 35, (not even close). Makes me wonder what the point of skills or (L) weapons specs are all about. I'm sure the answer is embedded deep in the core of the virtual universe, so it shall forever be a wonderment to me.

It certainly gives me a better understanding of Marco's statement that players turn over about every 6-12 months though. I think it's regrettable I feel this way also. I wonder why I pay money to do something that makes me feel so stupid, perhaps I should stick with maths or something, at least with maths the rules make sense.

Kinder regards,

Avatar Einar Lee Yap

23 Nov 2007 Entropia Support:
Hello and thank you for the update. There is unfortunately not much else that we can add to this case so it will now be closed. Please don't hesitate to contact us again.Regards,Entropia Support

20% loot return ?

okay, am gonna be my blunt self again -

Either you lie with those numbers or you're the dumbest person I've met hunting in Eudoria ... I'm lvl 49/49 laser hit/dmg and I can safely say that I have never a 20% return in my life (fancy spider hunts excluded) ...

Seriously, 20%, no chance I don't buy it


oh and when do you ppl realise that EU is like a Casino, some are lucky, most are not ffs - don't play the game if you can't loose

Angel

[SirFluidHat]

Originally Posted by Limey

Sorry to bust your ego bubble but I think its about time one of these threads had a post showing a completely different opinion. In my opionion im wasting my time posting here. This is what I consider to be a whining about whiners thread, which would make me now a whiner about whiner-whiners , your wasting your time creating a thread to whine about other peoples opinions and to me thats not what a forum should be about, IN MY OPINION your thread is so unnecessary. A forum is a place to share opinions and discuss topics not whine about opinions. Your so called "wakeup call" thread is just a means of collecting a few easy +reps and EFDs:



Dont worry this will be the only time I post in a whiner-whiners thread.

yo

The funny thing is that you fall in the same category as you described.
Whines about the whiner that whines about the whiners

[LeeYap]

Don't know quite what to say to your replies. No I'm not lying, and I'm a lvl 34 laser pistoleer and lvl 34 ranged laser dmg, so I'm fairly sure I'm maxed on the Korss H400(L). Check for me if you would as I'm to stupid to read the spec sheet.

I've only experienced this problem since VU 9, and I've heard it from others also, not so much the misses and low damage, but unusually low loot. In the 20% of ammo area.

Anyway my point was that lows and highs, are built into the game by MA's own mouth.

I don't think, my particular problem is from the highs and lows of the game, I've played long enough to see those. I'm pretty sure the misses are associated with a lag, the low damage... ah who knows prolly, a coincidence.

When I shoot my Madox 4 + beast, I expect this kind of performance, when it happens with a H400 there is a problem.