Increasing Sweat Prices - Page 5

Dazza · 03-26-2008, 12:57

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Originally Posted by Sodiak

Then why can people go to the store and buy a game for $30-50? Deposit the amount of money a "normal" game would cost and see if you like it better.

I don't have a problem problem with people posting ideas and suggestions. BUT! When it come to sweat price increase posts the qouta have been filled for the next 200 years or so. If you took time to read the forum and searched for similar topics before posting everyone would know that.

And you say I should think about other than myself. Who would benefit from an increased sweatprice? In the long run? Who is paying for the sweat? What benefit to the whole community would come from a higher sweat price? Nothing at all. Long time, depositing players that uses me would use it a lot less and therefor immidiatly lower the price again. Asking for an increased sweat price is like going to the boardroom at a company which I hold shares and say: "Hey, I think my shares should be worth more, can't you rise the value a little?"

So please, spare me your rightfulness and think one step further yourself.

Sigh. What do you do when you buy a game? You dont just pick a random off the shelf and pay for it. You look at the screenshot pics, you read about it. Thats what the basics are when you play EU. Your "looking" at what it has to offer!

Asking for an increased sweat price.. New people dont go sweat and mine for FN, do they? People who use ME can pay less for FN, and raise the bar for Sweat! Thats one step ahead. Noone specifically goes mining for FN just to sell at 140%, but sweaters specifically sweat to sell at a decent price! If you do go for FN and only that, then fine, be my guest. But if your getting 110% for FN, and paying .90 per bottle of sweat, that gives ME resellers same numbers, but new people get a decent return!!

JackFree · 03-26-2008, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Dazza

Good point. I hate when I get asked this by my disciples, and when I have to reply, the only way to get money without depositing is to sweat. When they ask if they can afford a gun and some ammo after their first few attempts, i hate the thought of saying no. I take whatever they have (usually around 70-100) bottles, and fit them out with an opalo and 1k ammo. Then tell them the principles of swunting. Then, low and behold, I have disciples who keep returning and they dont say, do you want to go hunting... Only ever, swunting. If I can imply these on them to make their stay more pleasurable, Im pleased I've helped someone enjoy EU.

I usually go on sweats with them, and give them whatever sweat I get, just so they can feel as though they've had some impact. There is nothing more pleasing than to hear a new person say "This game is awesome".

I would return too if you kept giving out weapons and ammo for a few bottles of sweat.

Helping noobs by showing them how EU works is all fine and dandy, and you should be commended for it, but it has nothing to do with the price of sweat.

You can sweat as much as you want these days, with no sweat cap. It is boring, but it is also free. Sweating does not define EU, it is a way for someone to get their foot in the door without depositing. It takes a bit longer than typing in your CC number, but it is free.

Maybe there should be a madatory one-time $10 fee to try EU, that would stop the non-depositors and they could try a bit of hunting right from the start...

...and sweat should be free!

..actually I like it the way it is now. If I need sweat I will collect it myself.

Cheers

Sodiak · 03-26-2008, 13:07

Mispost...

JackFree · 03-26-2008, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Dazza

Sigh. What do you do when you buy a game? You dont just pick a random off the shelf and pay for it. You look at the screenshot pics, you read about it. Thats what the basics are when you play EU. Your "looking" at what it has to offer!

Asking for an increased sweat price.. New people dont go sweat and mine for FN, do they? People who use ME can pay less for FN, and raise the bar for Sweat! Thats one step ahead. Noone specifically goes mining for FN just to sell at 140%, but sweaters specifically sweat to sell at a decent price! If you do go for FN and only that, then fine, be my guest. But if your getting 110% for FN, and paying .90 per bottle of sweat, that gives ME resellers same numbers, but new people get a decent return!!

..or you can try it for a short time for free before you buy it. How many games do you know that will let you actually make money during the trial period if at all?

...and yes, even the few PEC you get from sweating is real money.

safara · 03-26-2008, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Sodiak

Excuse my ignorance, but what is FN? In swedish it's an abbrevation for the United Nations, but I don't really fit that in here.

Force Nexus.

Haha, caught your Nooby moment Sodi before you edited your post

JackFree · 03-26-2008, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Sodiak

Excuse my ignorance, but what is FN? In swedish it's an abbrevation for the United Nations, but I don't really fit that in here.

Force Nexus, used with Sweat to make Mind Essence...

Sodiak · 03-26-2008, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Dazza

Sigh. What do you do when you buy a game? You dont just pick a random off the shelf and pay for it. You look at the screenshot pics, you read about it. Thats what the basics are when you play EU. Your "looking" at what it has to offer!

What I'm saying is that everyone have a choice. If they chose the hard way, don't whine about it being hard.

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Originally Posted by Dazza

Asking for an increased sweat price.. New people dont go sweat and mine for FN, do they? People who use ME can pay less for FN, and raise the bar for Sweat! Thats one step ahead. Noone specifically goes mining for FN just to sell at 140%, but sweaters specifically sweat to sell at a decent price! If you do go for FN and only that, then fine, be my guest. But if your getting 110% for FN, and paying .90 per bottle of sweat, that gives ME resellers same numbers, but new people get a decent return!!

It's not free to find Force Nexus...

Sodiak · 03-26-2008, 13:11

Seems like more did:P

xInFernaLx · 03-26-2008, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Dazza

Sigh. What do you do when you buy a game? You dont just pick a random off the shelf and pay for it. You look at the screenshot pics, you read about it. Thats what the basics are when you play EU. Your "looking" at what it has to offer!

Asking for an increased sweat price.. New people dont go sweat and mine for FN, do they? People who use ME can pay less for FN, and raise the bar for Sweat! Thats one step ahead. Noone specifically goes mining for FN just to sell at 140%, but sweaters specifically sweat to sell at a decent price! If you do go for FN and only that, then fine, be my guest. But if your getting 110% for FN, and paying .90 per bottle of sweat, that gives ME resellers same numbers, but new people get a decent return!!

1. Look here my friend

: www.entropiauniverse.com

Loads of screenshots, and I'm pretty sure you find a few hundreds sides of information there about Entropia

so why would you go buy a game for 20-30$, but not deposit 10$ in Entropia, which is a "free game", you download it and play

you want to make it absolutely free? Ok, go do some sweating, gather some fruit, find some dung or stones

but do you know what? People "investing" hundreds of $'s in the game, and have to use loads of they're hard earned peds, have to use it on expensive ME, so tha the newcommers who want's to earn free peds and money, from a game they can learn a lot about without sweating, in fact, they can learn much more about Entropia than they can learn from mostly any other game they will ever buy

NO WAY!

let the ones who actually have used a lot of money on Entropia get they're returns in fun and reasonable prices

They've earned it!

And I'm sure I can say this for every miner on Entropia, FN is not free to mine

and if they found FN equivalent to the peds they've used on mining it, so they would get they're return in pure tt value, then it wouldn't be a markup on FN, the reason for the markup is that it actually cost more peds to mine FN than they get back in tt value

Regards from an old Entropian

Sorry for off topic: I think I'll have to decrease my use of smilies.. hehe..

Dazza · 03-26-2008, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Sodiak

What I'm saying is that everyone have a choice. If they chose the hard way, don't whine about it being hard.

It's not free to find Force Nexus...

I agree with your point, there are those who will choose the hard way and ONLY ever sweat. And they'll be complaining. There are those inevitable misfits who just complain that they don't have enough, because in their world, they deserve everything + much more.

I realise that its not free, but look at pilots and their need for oil. Oil prices have thus fallen. Now, your lucky to get 110% for oil. I remember when I was getting 110% easy, when I was an ME dealer @ the rig. If FN drops in price, then sweat prices can increase to match the current going prices. If you pay 110ped for FN, and 90ped for sweat, and sell ME @ 210%, your getting the same amount back if you paid 140ped for FN, and 60ped for sweat. Its an inverse economical relationship that in turn delivers help to many people.

I do not want to seem as though I am placing any anger on you, and sorry if I have been a bit too harsh. My sincerest apologies. But its just something that really gets to me when all I hear is the people ranting on how not to sell below this, yet they are such hypocrites and dont buy at the rate they suggest.

@ Jackfree, I only give them the 1k ammo and gun, thats it. They provide for themselves after. Thats whats great! They sweat till the mobs dry, then kill it. They make their own profits, and pay for themselves! They sustain their own way of life in this game, its just that i give them a helping hand to start