Weapon Amp Price Manipulation

[SuperKanjo]

Originally Posted by Aandar

Hmm
Just an idea:

I wonder if it would work if you asked your (trusted) socmate to put an order for tt+0 or tt+1 if tt+0 is not possible and then if you placed the item at the same buyout. [edit] looks like the reseller has an order for +470 now for a104 so it would have to be +471 to not to lose the item (it would still decrease its day mv of +481.23)[/edit]
Then the game should instantly (i'm not sure if it works that way without ever showing the item to normal auction watchers) sell it to your socmate so you will not lose the item and the graph will go down (if order items are counted in auction data graphs).
Or if it doesnt work - ask 10 socmates to watch the auction very closely and refresh every few seconds on a low traffic time of day and buy the item quicker than anyone else could catch it (this one is risky ofc).

(only to combat the manipulators ofc)

why should i want to get me items down in value

but i agree its crazy how the prices are going, but its "us" who buy the items who do it.

[Aandar]

Originally Posted by SuperKanjo

why should i want to get me items down in value

1 to hurt those nasty price inflators
2 if you have 1 and would like to buy more at a nice price (not at these totally idiotic, fubared, inflated prices)
3 if you want to be more popular hehehe
4 if you feel bad for new people who cant afford to buy a101
5 if you want more people to hunt because you need materials that come from hunting (yes this one is a little stretched but imagine how many amps are now in hands of resellers that could be used by hunters)

etc etc etc

[EarlVonKippler]

Originally Posted by EarlVonKippler

... some things do go up to real supply and demand, but a very large part of the market value is created value from 'investers' and auctionhawk resellers.

Originally Posted by Nebu

Yeah, but amps have been slowly going up in price, until some of them doubled over the past week. I doubt thats normal supply and demand behaviour.

i doubt it as well, perhaps you misunderstood me. i said SOME is part of real supply and demand, but a very large part is created value, i.e. i mean it isn't real and only added to the price because they can.

[Dorsai]

Artificially inflating the selling price of an item up is, perhaps, easy.

But it's of no use if no-one will actually buy it at the inflated price.

The humble Fap-5 could have it's price fairly easily inflated to TT+100 I would guess, if someone wanted to, but there would be no point, as there are better choices available (from the TT for example) for far less, and everyone knows this. no one would pay tt+10 for a fap-5, so the effort would be wasted.

For the manipulation to work, there has to be a market for the item that is willing to pay the new higher price. If people are willing to pay the new price, perhaps all it means is the item was undervalued to start with, and someone has just made the price go up faster than it would have, but not actually made it go up beyond the point it would have eventually (12 months later) arrived at??

Just posting as an idea.