Players are paying for the Paynova fraud?

[D-Low]

Originally Posted by Shadowsong

There is something desperately wrong with the economy at the moment.

Say it aint so???
And yes I will have to agree with you on this fact.

[Kaitlyn]

I don't see any difference in loot it's been this way for a several months now. I don't agree that we are paying for the paynova thing...

I honestly do not believe we are paying for it...MA I am confident was covered and didn't lose more then the 10 or so hours of play from the locked accounts that were unlocked.

It's unfortunate that any of this happened but everyone is trying to blame MA when it was players who committed the crime.

[Ekholm]

Originally Posted by Baradur

I do not (neither do my soc mates) see a drastic drop in returns. Returns seem perfectly normal to me (80% return on average).

MA is a company with company policies. When a mistake is made by one of the contractual partners of a company (eg paynova in this case), the partner has to evaluate and propose a solution. The solution in a normal case is to sew the fraudulant participants.. but since this a tad hard (virtual - online participant) that will prolly never happen. MA will not redirect their income to correct a mistake where another company has failed.

So, much fuzz about a cheap thrill... btw even 1000000 ped spread out over let's say 200000 players = 5 ped / player. (and there are probably a LOT more active accounts -)....

now, get out there and score!

woot are you telling me that there is more than 200k of active PE acounts? lol
Do i understand you right here?

[dotc0m]

there been big withdraw this week. 350000ped and a few others.

Each time i was been informed of such withdraw in the game, loot been VERY VERY bad.

[gianniszrf]

So, much fuzz about a cheap thrill... btw even 1000000 ped spread out over let's say 200000 players = 5 ped / player. (and there are probably a LOT more active accounts -)....

200000 active players divide this by at least 10.

Also why 1000000 peds? maybe was 10000000 peds that spread out over lets say 20000 active players = 500 ped /player

OMG the sky is falling again

[DRDoom]

Originally Posted by Baradur

So, much fuzz about a cheap thrill... btw even 1000000 ped spread out over let's say 200000 players = 5 ped / player. (and there are probably a LOT more active accounts -)....

You really think there are 200K active depositing accounts?
I think 10K active regulary depositing accounts is allready very optimistic.
This would mean that these players have to cough up 1K ped each to cover the fraud.

[Joat]

IMO there could be a lot of reasons why loot is bad.
1. The fraud, but I doubt it thou'. (Since some players loot has been
terrible for some weeks now )

2a. Huge ATH will come in future, as PR for the CE2-release.
b. Huge ATH will come in future, as PR for Chinaservers becomes live.

3. Low interest in serious actions, due to point 2a and 2b, less is spent
and average lootsystem value are lower than normal.

4. Low interest due to changes in mobstats lately. Doubt that thou'.

5. A lot happens IRL and less time is spent in EU atm.

And, of course, it could be due to comb of all or some of the above points.

[Zap]

he hee, funny thread, i stay tuned

[Dergin Skellig]

I've not minded bad loot runs here and there, but this is definately how MA seems to be handling the fact they and Paynova screwed up. "Oh well, theres enough players to take $500 from each and make it right up, plus a bit for summer vacations."

I know its "dynamic" but with korss+104 I've not had a return under ~30% ... until MA/Paynova screwed up. Now I can take 300ped ammo out and be happy to break a 3-digit return. This isnt trying stupid stuff like dasp or aurli with korss+104 either, this is just plain hunting armax to prov and whatever other little molisks get into the fray.

I hope people are actually getting good returns, and not just to MA-Employed "shills" but to real contributors to this Universe. Otherwise if only the shills are profitting, then the likely course MA took to remedy the loss of Paynova peds was to gouge us for their mistake.

Fog :d

[Mega]

Originally Posted by dotc0m

there been big withdraw this week. 350000ped and a few others.

Each time i was been informed of such withdraw in the game, loot been VERY VERY bad.

I would have to say this is more likely explanation. The pie became a little smaller that's all.

Didnt loot become pretty dire for a while after Pham's big big withdrawal too?


(No offence intended to any withdrawers btw)