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View Poll Results: Loot? What loot?
Loot has decreased over past few days 50 33.33%
Loot has increased over past few days 14 9.33%
Loot has remained the same 31 20.67%
This creature has no loot 55 36.67%
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Old 06-22-2008, 13:15   #31
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It's a vicious cycle.

Loot is bad, so people stop depositing. I've spoken to a LOT of older players and noticed that the vast majority of them have stopped depositing on account of the game being an absolute money pit.

I myself have stopped depositing, and will sell everything I have before I even think about doing it again. But the issue is, the less people who deposit, the less loot there is.

I think this is a definate factor in the poor loots we've (most of us) been getting for the last year or so.
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but peds...are virtual currency with no covering (I mean peds are worth nothing until you withdraw them) So MindArk can produce as many peds as they want because its virtual currency, even 1.000.000.000 peds now but they have no cover in USD until withdrawed. Am I right ?

So I can promise I will never withdraw...and they can give me 1mln ped hof.
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but peds...are virtual currency with no covering (I mean peds are worth nothing until you withdraw them) So MindArk can produce as many peds as they want because its virtual currency, even 1.000.000.000 peds now but they have no cover in USD until withdrawed. Am I right ?

So I can promise I will never withdraw...and they can give me 1mln ped hof.
They have to cover the deposits.
Just take a look at their financial reports, they can not create PEDs out of the air.
Also givng everyone zillions of PEDs would cause inflation ingame, which is something no one wants.
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loot is like a rain, it rains here, but 100km away sky is clean.
So please accept that loot in Entropia Universe is like the weather.
Its quite a good way of looking at it, but if it were true, it would mean that its summer all year in Sweden .

For many months now loot has been disgraceful for me, but tbh its actually been better today for me and some of my friends. Just goes to show that EU is DYNAMIC
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Yup loot decreased but not only in hunting, a good miner (lvl 44) who was profiting good before doesn't stop to lose since the last VU.
And in craft ... I'm lvl 34 and never got so bad return, I lost in 1 week what I was losing in 1 month...

Well maybe the loot didn't decreased, it's just more unbalanced, 200-300 ppl get nice hof per day and the rest gets nothing.
Yes I agree, loots since the last VU seem more unbalanced - more super big loots, more hofs and less globals or smaller loots.

I have just had one of the worst looting periods ever the past few days, not for lack of globals and hofs, more the lack of the regular 10-20 ped loots as they are the ones that make the difference.

I play fairly hard with ped burn and expect to lose big now and then, so I'm not stressed - however I would prefer there were more globals and less mega hofs, that is what gives you the best chance of breaking even. MA need to find a balance, we all want hofs and ATH's, but also don't want general losses to be too severe.
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Yes I agree, loots since the last VU seem more unbalanced - more super big loots, more hofs and less globals or smaller loots.

I have just had one of the worst looting periods ever the past few days, not for lack of globals and hofs, more the lack of the regular 10-20 ped loots as they are the ones that make the difference.

I play fairly hard with ped burn and expect to lose big now and then, so I'm not stressed - however I would prefer there were more globals and less mega hofs, that is what gives you the best chance of breaking even. MA need to find a balance, we all want hofs and ATH's, but also don't want general losses to be too severe.
It is surely _NOT_ a general issue.
Right after VU my return rates went up quite a bit, which was no surprise to me because 10 days since pre-VU they went down. Just the normal loot cycle, nothing special.
There might be more ATHs, but as long as no one knows which pool they are generated from, they have nothing to do with normal loot.
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Check latest UBER Loots!

Where does this PEDs in this loots come from, yes its you and me who got bad returns last few days paying for this UBER-Loots.

Normally I have 3-4 Globals during a 1k PED hunt, what gives an average return around 80%.

Last three days I had average returns around 30% and below, that sucks big time, without a single small global in a 1k PED hunt.
Same thing happend in crafting run yesterday, its not only hunting! Surely Torlins second ATH and a Simple II Conductor ATH hae to paid for in some or another way and there are damn lot players that lost lately and very very few that made profit (but huge profit)!
Totally broke atm, and no way to deposit again this month, I am back to sweating!

I hope this goes back to normal soon, can live with 80% average returns and one or another UBER once or twice. Can´t live with less than 30% returns and 3 ATHs every day for someone that isn´t me.

just my 2pec

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Well in general ive had down periods and up periods, but since 2 weeks back and 1500 ped deposited I havent had a global and highest loot was 35 ped. Almost every hunt I went out on had a 50 % return rate on ammo spent. This is the worst period ive ever had and has made me loose all faith.
So MA maybe I can just deposit the money in youre account without passing through the game, it would save me alot of time....

Over and out for a long long time.
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Thanks Mega

Sometimes whinning helps, sold some stuff went out on a 400 PED hunt on Scips, and voila, luck changed! 3 Globals containing a HL8 (L) and a 16 PED ESI, nice run after whinnig post
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