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Old 06-24-2008, 08:15   #41
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so what you're saying is ... it's for the resellers to decide??

And Red is a part of the community too, as far as I know. He might set a new price, which is more reasonable ..
I know many hunters that would pay more then 15k to buy a ml35 to use as their hunting weapon. Even I value the ml35 over 15k since I payed alot more for it.
Resellers are part of the community too. Just like you me. (not sure if Im welcome now tho)
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Feel free to proove me wrong, I think Lykke would appreciate that gun and she wouldn't scam anyone, so all will be fine if u sell to her when you found sth better I guess.



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I can honestly only see a problem here, if he sells it for much more. Most people would keep a nice deal like this secret and then just sell the fucker. Actually ... a lot of people already are. You don't think by posting a thread like this, the guy already knows that selling it for 10K more would be a littl bit difficult? Maybe he is not thinking like that! I think it's awesome to see that not everybody is greedy.

And Kimmy, friendship is a weird type, isn't it? Maybe his friend thought he could not sell an item which is not really worth 25K - I mean - a few months ago it was only worth 15 K. I wonder who pushed up the prices like that in a few months! Those are the ones to bash I think!

But of course, if someone out there are sitting with a weapon like this and thought they could earn 10K on it now - after a few months, it's shitty to see that prices might go down to normal again, innit?

I think this comes down to what the definition of 'worth' is. SOmething can be a ppraised at 25k, that doesn't make it worth 25k. DOes the end use justify the cost?

"Oh but you can just resell it later for a higher price" is the standard line people seem to come up with when appraising already grossly overpirced items, like amps
"Oh, you aren't actually buying it for use - the savings of buying <a10x> might be minute, but you can resell it later! So it doesn't cost you anything!"

I wonder how many of these same people scream at others for reselling.

So what is the worth of a ml-35? And what is it appraised at? "Oh you can reduce a falx's health down to 75% before it gets to you! But at twice the cost!" I can do this with normal (L) weapons...in fact i can tank a falx young If I'm lucky (as long as it doesn't hit hard twice) with lr48.

"Oh you need it for team hunts on big mobs!"

Err.

I hunt chomper in team of two with p5. Me and a socmate can hunt just about anything with p5. If i wanted something a little harder hitting i have my LR's and cb's. As a team we agree to use similar damage weapons.

"Oh but the RANGE look how much i can shoot a mob before it gets to me"
Yeah so you get less loot, less paramedic skills, less evade. You are, in effect, a far less efficient hunter than any short-range sane-minded hunter.

"But I can buy more skills on those things you say I will lack if I use ml-35"
Buying skills and grossly overpriced equipment are completely different topics and one cannot be used to justify artificially pushing the price up on useless crap.

"Oh but the pk factor!"
Ever heard of counter strike? Go play.

In short, the appraisal of an item like ML is it's resell value, not it's use. Items such as OA-105 unl (380k), modfap (420k) however pay for themselves (you cannot buy paramedic skills for 420k that would even come a whisker close to modfap healing ability, however you can buy evade which acts somewhat like doubling (tripling... etc) the worth of fap skills when high enough). So those resellers you see every week are just wetting their pants in glee every time. And of course those people who own the gorssly overpriced equipment -don't mind- and then refuse to sell for lower than they bought - so of course it will always look like the price is going up, it will always be appraised 'at the cost of purchase or higher", however the true worth of the item never went up.
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I have a feeling that the ML-35 will be an uber uber gun when the CryEngine comes along. I've played multiplayer deathmatch in Crysis and it is so good its untrue. With its range, the ML-35 is going to rock for sure.

Maybe the +25-27k tag reflects this feeling among others too?

TBH, I wish I still had mine.
Its cool Photon, maybe you can buy this ML for tt+16k, then Red made himself 1k very fast.. Should be a good deal for everyone ey?
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Just a heads up, I bought an ml35 from a friend for +15k....

Someone finally realized it's a decent gun, but not worth $2700 usd....

Sorry to those that are selling for higher...

It's always nice to have friends that care

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p.s. yes, this is completely true... my soc mates can vouch that I have it... and use it... and yes, I still think 15k is a bit overpriced for it...

p.s.s. trading ml35 +2k for jungle
Oh wait, are you offering 17k for a jungle here?
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I wish MA would remove saleshistory,and many people would be lost too
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I wish MA would remove saleshistory,and many people would be lost too
... get lost, maybe



I just wish I could buy one for +15k ...


time to think new ideas ....
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man, im suprised to see the reaction here.

everyone thinks the prices on items are crazy.. but when someone was able to buy a gun way under the so called "market value" you think hes gonna resell it for 10k more of hes friend most be a stupid, rich or whatever to sell it that cheap? thats just a very odd behavior

I think its FANTASTIC he did a post about this.. and for all of you "market valuers" I guess this is the new market value for ML35..

its very wierd that items always increase in value and never goes down in value. So for ones, the economy within EU took a step forward..
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Oh wait, are you offering 17k for a jungle here?
Using the gun his friend sold him as a favour for a knock down price
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