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Old 04-15-2008, 18:43   #21
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i just wanted to make it clear that what Spawn is doing is not in any way analogous to what Skippie is doing.
You made it clear. Now point me to where I said I was doing skippie analogue?
I like females doer, you know that. Although doing a skippie.. that;s analogue enough i guess..

seriously... im not trying to prove skippie's point.. he can do that himself. This is my thread, just following in his footsteps doing what he did with the gear I can afford.
And yes I could have done maybe a bit better on the nex in the first run.. with less decay. but it was my first big hunt on those ever.. so i didnt know what to expect. (only from entropedia)

Im continuing soon with the drones.

p5a/a105 with the following armour: paladin arms, shins, mask, bear gloves, harness, boar feet, shogun thighs all 6a plated.
500 peds ammo
fap-5 , ek-2350 (only in panic)

if someone wants to give me pointers on what would be more eco, without having to fap, let me know.
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Old 04-15-2008, 19:37   #22
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hi spawn.

interesting response and even more interesting results.

i saw on the thread somewhere that you said during your 1000 ped nexnecis run you only had one global. i had 6-7 i believe during that run, sure that had you had the same amount of looters it would have easily paid for amp decay, not sure about fap or armor.

although a fap 5 is ubah, i used one myself for a long, long time.

i suspect that there is something to high dam per sec, paired with eco, that allows a much different access to loot than can be had with a p5a or something over the same amount of time.

with that said, i'll be looking forward to following your results and wish you better luck than i've had along the way thus far.

learn from my mistakes, maybe stay off the equus.
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well in general
skippie isnt factoring in what he paid for his mm

so for example 5a is tt+50 or something so this guys is factoring in that tt+ each hunt
Personally if your paying 50-100 above the tt of a weapon your chances of making profit in the long run is very slim

you cant just throw away 50-100 ped per gun and expect to make it up...
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well in general
skippie isnt factoring in what he paid for his mm

so for example 5a is tt+50 or something so this guys is factoring in that tt+ each hunt
Personally if your paying 50-100 above the tt of a weapon your chances of making profit in the long run is very slim

you cant just throw away 50-100 ped per gun and expect to make it up...
and ppl still are saying:
"get high eco Limited gun and you will profit"

fact is each limited gun produce additional 50-100peds = Markup which must be "found" and payed from loot...so you must be lucky or wise to PRODUCE THIS EXTRA 50-100 PEDS and produce more free peds to keep profit.
As we all know...its magic barrier to pass. Its like trying to drink 0.7 Litre of vodka when you bought only 0.5 Litre ...
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skippie isnt factoring in what he paid for his mm
i am however figuring in that i could currently sell my MM to several ppl for what i paid, so the MM costs me literally nothing but the 100% decay of it.
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i am however figuring in that i could currently sell my MM to several ppl for what i paid, so the MM costs me literally nothing but the 100% decay of it.
thats why Limited ppl cant profit, because each gun you buy...you must hope that "extra" amount of peds (markup) will be covered by loot...and loot is xx % return of TT you spend during killing...
If such Limited person can profit...person with maxed impmk2 should only play entropia 8 hours/day as his/her job...

Do simple calculations...compare dmg/pec of maxed impmk2 and maxed p5a @ 140% , pick a mob (for exmaple: 10k of neconu with maxed impmk2 and 10k neconu with p5a @ 140%...you will see huge difference in spend amount of peds to do this) , average dmg, do the math and
But many ppl dont understand this and I think again many of you will -rep me for this post...
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and ppl still are saying:
"get high eco Limited gun and you will profit"

fact is each limited gun produce additional 50-100peds = Markup which must be "found" and payed from loot...so you must be lucky or wise to PRODUCE THIS EXTRA 50-100 PEDS and produce more free peds to keep profit.
As we all know...its magic barrier to pass. Its like trying to drink 0.7 Litre of vodka when you bought only 0.5 Litre ...
Nah, it's more like trying to piss .7L of vodka when you drank .5L. Sure you can do it, but you're dehydrated and have one hell of a hangover.
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Try an UnL sib gun that might change the results. The other thing is by hunting what Skippie hunted you can prove that what comes in is usually the same which kills the personal loot pool theory.
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Nah, it's more like trying to piss .7L of vodka when you drank .5L. Sure you can do it, but you're dehydrated and have one hell of a hangover.
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OT: More eco would be ghost (except feet, use zombie there) +6B, Maddox IV (unamped) and hunt small up medium Allophyl ( up to guardian) . Maddox should last for a 250 PED run.
With your skills that should be way more economical than hunting something where even the young one do around 100 dmg per hit.
I don't think it is possible to exactly the same run as somebody else.
Too many factors which can not be reproduced.
Nobody knows, how loot works here. Could quite possibly be, that i you need 1.2 seconds more to take out one specific mob you get an ATH, if you take 1.21 you get nothing.
Could be also that your karma was not right, you were not feeling lucky and a pidgeon attacked you in a paralell universe
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