Doing a Skippie

[Doer]

Originally Posted by WoenK

OT: More eco would be Maddox IV (unamped)

Eh, what?

Level 40 hit/40 dmg:

Maddox IV 2.4 dmg/pec 29.9 dmg/s
Breer P5a @ 140%, unamped 2.75 dmg/pec 24.7 dmg/s
Breer P5a @ 140%, A105 2.87 dmg/pec 34.3 dmg/s

Just keep feeding the loot pool, man.

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by Doer

Eh, what?

Level 40 hit/40 dmg:

Maddox IV 2.4 dmg/pec 29.9 dmg/s
Breer P5a @ 140%, unamped 2.75 dmg/pec 24.7 dmg/s
Breer P5a @ 140%, A105 2.87 dmg/pec 34.3 dmg/s

Just keep feeding the loot pool, man.

Even with just my Level 20/20 I still loose way less than I lost with the (L) ones.
Besides...you are talking average damage...how do you know he only always deals out average ?!
Statistical average ? Calculated average?
Are the statistics done every day ? Every VU ?
Entropedia is a great ressource to get hints, but the only ones knowing the facts are at MA and they surely wont say.
The only true facts for me are what is on my card after several hunts.
If it is more than after similar hunts with another wepon, than it's more economical for me.

[Doer]

Originally Posted by WoenK

Even with just my Level 20/20 I still loose way less than I lost with the (L) ones.

That's purely coincidental, then. Hunting the same mobs with a similar dmg/s weapon, you'll always do better in the long run with higher dmg/pec (i.e. most (L) weapons).

Besides...you are talking average damage...how do you know he only always deals out average ?.

Because i tested it, others have tested it, it has never changed, and if it does i'm sure someone will notice sooner rather than later.

[Spawn]

run 2 on drones has been added to results post.

[Caoryn]

Originally Posted by Level

thats why Limited ppl cant profit, because each gun you buy...you must hope that "extra" amount of peds (markup) will be covered by loot...and loot is xx % return of TT you spend during killing...
If such Limited person can profit...person with maxed impmk2 should only play entropia 8 hours/day as his/her job...

Do simple calculations...compare dmg/pec of maxed impmk2 and maxed p5a @ 140% , pick a mob (for exmaple: 10k of neconu with maxed impmk2 and 10k neconu with p5a @ 140%...you will see huge difference in spend amount of peds to do this) , average dmg, do the math and
But many ppl dont understand this and I think again many of you will -rep me for this post...

I'm nowhere near your in-game experience (23 Laser Pistoleer now), but from my point of view the (L) guns' economy is thus driven by their actual decay:ammo_consumption ratio. For a Korss H400 with an A104 (and when I take the care to use my low-markup finishers) I get about 10 ped decay on the pistol, so about 5-6 ped of markup lost, per 100 ped of ammo. If you aim for the right target (Drops something with a markup regularly, i.e. drones and gazz) you should be able to get these two markups to kill each other.

Summarized: If you go (L) stay off the GeoTreks and Isises (Maybe except Auriga), and go for drones (steadier markup) or argos (less fap and armor decay) babies.

Hugz n' kisses,
Caoryn

[sunny]

Bad luck to spend 500 ped ammo without a single global

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by Doer

That's purely coincidental, then. Hunting the same mobs with a similar dmg/s weapon, you'll always do better in the long run with higher dmg/pec (i.e. most (L) weapons).



Because i tested it, others have tested it, it has never changed, and if it does i'm sure someone will notice sooner rather than later.

The question ist, when was it last tested ?
There are so many variables, that should be included in the tests, which surely are not.
For me the (L) don't work anymore. After I got markmanship, skilling on them went slower than with unlimted ones.
Can not say, how it is for others, but somehow I feel that every ava is unique.
Mine seems to global very often, others get more mini globals. I get more items, others more oils. Loot value is about the same (at about the same level).
I am very sceptic about statistics, in my short time here there were too many things that were not absolutely correct or outdated (like skilling on filters is the cheapest way to skill).

[Doer]

Originally Posted by WoenK

The question ist, when was it last tested ?

I am very sceptic about statistics, in my short time here there were too many things that were not absolutely correct or outdated (like skilling on filters is the cheapest way to skill).

I haven't seen numbers to show that skilling on filters is the cheapest way to skill, but i have heard people say it. One is advice, one is statistics. Don't doubt mathematics because you read some outdated advice!

Anyway this is increasingly off topic. If you want to challenge that damage is a uniform distribution, go to Weapon damage distribution (as promised), the thread in my signature where i tested it and post some numbers. I will repeat that weapon damage is a uniform distribution between min damage and max; if you demonstrate otherwise in my test thread i will be happy to come back to this thread and recant.

Spawn: i haven't been hunting much in game the last few days because loot has been poor. It looks like you experienced the same on drones; hopefully, it will get better soon!

[Spawn]

Skippie says: skip the equus, so I will...

next run:

Run 4

Fort Fury to Camp Phoenix (300 PED Ammo)

Feff, Trip, Fauc, Maff, Armax, Atrox, Goki

I will have a hard time on the atrox and goki, especially if they gang up on me, so I will bring a tagger to keep the decay a bit down, hopefully that helps a bit. I will bring a punisher mk2, because i dont have a marber, and the punisher has 77 range and i can pick it up for near tt from auction.
I will be going ghost/bear/boar parts with 5b plates, the last remains of my p5a/a105, vivo tt and ek-2350 (panic fap).

ghost/bear/boar because it will protect me well enough against all the mobs mentioned.. i could try kobold for less decay but that lacks decent cut and stab. (big atrox,goki)

[Spawn]

run 3 has been added: fort fury to camp phoenix.

looted a korss and a 19 ped esi.. made up for some losses.