How to analyze loot

[falkao]

Originally Posted by Doer

http://www.entropiatracker.com/index...PlayerID=12968

It only has three of the eight warrior globals, missed my two miner bot globals last night, and just generally sucks.

Oh yeah, and it also missed my trooper HOF.

Not useful yet, IMO.

It might be not usefully for personal stats, but seen as a whole he has got the best data about loot we've got so far. The missed ones do not disturb, it will still be a random sample of global loot.

[falkao]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

I would if I could Some of the stats is beyond me I'm afraid.

I'm sure you're able. It's only a matter of will.

forgot the

Btw, I'm analyzing this since 3 months now or maybe more. Maybe I was lucky to have the right background, but many things I had to learn as well.

Edit:
The best thing would be, if Starfinder would be so kind to publish a public dataset. So everyone can use the same data interested in the matter.

[Kosh]

I am not sure I will understand everything... or have time to do it in the near future. But I will try.

[falkao]

Originally Posted by Doer

I've had several experiences lately that suggest that specific mob "species" can have up and down periods within the same geographical region.
For example, the day i hit 8 warrior globals in an area with a lot of gen 6-9 drones (about same HP as warriors) without a single drone global.

If everything is purely random, then an observation like this is very rare. However, it might happen. During WOF I had a similar impression. Teams got far more globals than expected.

I personally believe there is some kind of a pool that must be filled before globals drop. Mathematically this pool exists implicitely but it's inf large.

During WOF such a pool is filled quite quickly and this might explain the number of globals. I also had the impression that after WOF stops there are still more globals for a limited time also on mobs not hunted during WOF. However, I might be fooled by my subjective feeling and so it would be best to verify it with data.

[falkao]

Originally Posted by Kosh

I am not sure I will understand everything... or have time to do it in the near future. But I will try.

Sounds good. All we would need is a sufficiently large dataset and I can provide a cook-book if you want.

[falkao]

to Jimmy,

the model does atm not explain why in your insane loot test return was lower in the higher cost factor tests. I have the impression that there is another limit. For example, C1 loot can't be higher than 50 PED.

With your 10000 HP ambu, C1 loot would be limited to 30 PED. With a 20000 HP ambu, C1 loot would be limited to 60 PED using the model. If loot in C1 has an additional truncation point then those 60 PED would be limited to 50 PED and hence you'll loose 10 PED.

[MAS Flottilla]

Originally Posted by falkao

I did not include any markup in the model. This would be missleading. So the model is based on retured TT. Markup can be introduced as mean markup or on a per mob basis if we know the distribution of special items.




That's a preciuos input. My model is very conservative, (i.e. I use the lower limits of the estimated class probabilities). A loot for class >= C3 is atm 2.5%. I'm sure it will be higher in the end, but due to limited data I don't want to publish results that are too high. So my given 78% return on Ambu Y means, the return is at least 78%.

Buk told me, that in his data using TT-value without markup, he has a return of about 96%. So we will see where we end up with a larger dataset.

Given the hunting skill difference between me and Buck that's more than reasonable.

[Dion Red Strike]

Falco,


good work, ofc...

But, when compiling the data, did you include the times of the various figures?

Would (or are) you be able to see a wave related to time if you compiled it?

[Monica]

Originally Posted by falkao

As you get from the titel, this thread is about how to analyze loot and it is not intended as a complete loot analysis.
To know if you can break even, more details are needed. I'll post them when I have time.

What`s the deal for you? why you telling peoples about loot system. If i were you, i would shut my mouth up and do on my own because it would be smartest way.! Why you wannt to analyze loot system and sheare with it, that everyone could loot thousands peds and many uber loots, why dont you take all for your self like all normal peoples? ;DD

[Monica]

I mean nothings wrong here, but im trying to say that you should analyze that finaly and keep all info for your own, because it`s your job, not somebody ellse..! nobody did, but if you ask me, i guess you wil get banned if you realy find out and use that "uber loot all the time" system ;PPP