For all ppl who whined about mob change: global counts

[Sloe]

It's exactly as Jorael said... more globals does not mean more popular or better returns lol. All it means is that more ppl are globalling on em... fewer 25-30 ped loots, cause they are doubled to a global ...but if u don't hit that global, you are, as a on buddy of mine liked to say, "fooked"


EDIT: What have u been smoking A-Bomb??? lol... chances of profit on small hunts is up??? what odds r u using?!?! lol

[Jorael]

Originally Posted by A-Bomb

Chances of globaling over a small ped hunt have gone up: True

Chances of breaking even on a smell ped hunt have gown down: True

However

Chances of profiting on a small ped hunt are up too.

And what you say about chances of breaking even are lower now than before:

Well thats ur opinion.

Now, as before, if you miss the global, you lose. Since the new mobs only pay in globals now, every hunt you make requires a global for at least a break even.

Put yourself in MA shoes. Its obvious they want to reduce chances of players breaking even. They want the player to use as much cash as possible.

The carrot has just doubled size, but also put twice as higher.

Who's losing in all of this? the hungry player...

[A-Bomb]

Originally Posted by Jorael

Well thats ur opinion.

This is my oppinion after firing 2 million rounds after the VUs release.

[A-Bomb]

Originally Posted by Sloe

EDIT: What have u been smoking A-Bomb??? lol... chances of profit on small hunts is up??? what odds r u using?!?! lol

If the chance of scoring a global is up, which it is on the regen mobs, then the chance of a few lucky hits is just as big as missing out. So im using factual odds.

[Jorael]

Originally Posted by A-Bomb

This is my oppinion after firing 2 million rounds after the VUs release.

Point is, most people have a life, and won't be able to rotate peds like you.

Its a fact that in EU, the more peds you rotate, the easier it gets to recover most TT value spent.

Its just the bar has been raised once again, and combine long term skilling with heavy rotation, and that's a path most players won't have the time, the patience, or the cash to follow.

Considering it takes K's of peds of rotation, instead of the 100's to at least break even on TT - as drops aren't guaranteed - i'd say the moderated players just got screwed.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by Jorael

Point is, most people have a life, and won't be able to rotate peds like you.

Its a fact that in EU, the more peds you rotate, the easier it gets to recover most TT value spent.

Its just the bar has been raised once again, and combine long term skilling with heavy rotation, and that's a path most players won't have the time or patience to follow.

Considering it takes K's of peds of rotation, instead of the 100's to at least break even on TT - as drops aren't guaranteed - i'd say the moderated players just got screwed.

This argument is circular and serves no purpose but to insinuate people dedicated to hardcore gaming are somehow beneath tryhards.

You bascailly said "spending peds quicker means you get return quicker"

Well no shit.

[Jorael]

Originally Posted by Immortal

This argument is circular and serves no purpose but to insinuate people dedicated to hardcore gaming are somehow beneath tryhards.

You bascailly said "spending peds quicker means you get return quicker"

Well no shit.

Nope, thats not what i said.

In this game, ped cycling determines how well you do.

Cycle small bits and you lose it all. Cycle much and you stay afloat. Even if you end up cycling the same ammount, but in different time spans.

The argument here is that the cycle value used to be smaller, and was affordable for many players to stay afloat, but now that value has gone up considerably, so the norm will be loss with the occasional breakeven, and a rare profit.

Im fine with that, as i don't spend 1/10 of what i used to spend in this game.

Originally Posted by Immortal

This argument is circular and serves no purpose but to insinuate people dedicated to hardcore gaming are somehow beneath tryhards.

Im not insinuating, im explicitly saying that the game is changing the requirement towards a fulltime dedication (hardcore playing). Perhaps you consider hardcore gaming a good thing, but its not. It will do you more harm then good, in all levels.

And that's not really what players want, now is it? If you make a new avatar, it will take you decades of moderated playing to reach a top level... tbh, who the fuck wants to be tied up to a game for decades? Life is short man.

Originally Posted by Immortal

You bascailly said "spending peds quicker means you get return quicker"

Well no shit.

Its about cycles, not speed of return. Try to figure that one out.

Just a note.. Say you want to bring a friend ingame...

"hey man, wanna join Entropia Universe?"
"Whats it about?"
"Well its a game where you have to pay for everything you do, even equipping clothes, but you can get jackpots"
"Jackpots, i like the sound of that.. So is it hard to play?"
"Not really, well, it will take you decades of dedicated playing to reach the top, or you can deposit 200K dolars and buy the skills and gear to be uber"
"decades? 200K... dollars? roflmao what have u been smoking man?"
"crack?"
"Thought so.."

[BruuD]

Originally Posted by Nebu

Mobs with higher HP tend to global more I dont think they are any more or less popular than before, not by much at least. If anything, people are curious about how the changed mobs feel, so more will hunt them shortly after the VU

Mobs still need an X amount of ped inputted before they can give an X amount of ped away, no matter what their HP is.
So if we define "more populair" as that ppl spend more peds on them, we definatly have a winner here

Btw, before mobs change it was Ambulimax that was the #1 globalling mob.
Now Atrox is a milestone ahead of ambu.

And the only thing i was trying to proof is that all those people that said EU is gonna die with these mob changes, that pppl were gonna quit and were gonna get fedup, were in fact wrong.

[xerxes]

Originally Posted by Jorael

Point is, most people have a life, and won't be able to rotate peds like you.

FIGHT FIGHT! RACE WAR!

(Quoting Eric Cartman)

[Sloe]

I love how u can possibly say that u can get luckier with less ped... how many bad runs BEFORE that happens??? we define success differently A-bomb i guess lol.