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Old 06-13-2008, 06:43   #11
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Kinda makes me wonder where skills come into it, as many here have spent a shitload of time and effort rainsing my skills, and then a guy gets 70k+ ATH with a tt finder!!

One guy very very happy, lots more dssolusioned (but grats to him ).

Seems no point to skiling up if we can find uberhofs with tt finders, uberhoffs on nooby mobs etc... *Back on Topic*

I think can discount equipment level as an infuencing factor on loot.
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*Slightly off topic, but related *

Kinda makes me wonder where skills come into it, as many here have spent a shitload of time and effort rainsing my skills, and then a guy gets 70k+ ATH with a tt finder!!

One guy very very happy, lots more dssolusioned (but grats to him ).

Seems no point to skiling up if we can find uberhofs with tt finders, uberhoffs on nooby mobs etc... *Back on Topic*

I think can discount equipment level as an infuencing factor on loot.
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This is what I think of when I hear people talking about following perception to find a global.

I even heard a guy who was convinced that to get good loots while mining you had to follow patterns in the sky
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It does not have to be random to be outside of your ability to influence the result.

Looking at the elements you describe, two of the three actually don't tell us anything. We assume the first one means if you use the wrong weapon, loot will suck.

What aspect of the looting avatar affects the loot? Is it pro-standing, avatar height as a ratio of mob hp or the avatars incept date? We don't know.

Then "other factors" - well, that's about as broad and as vague as they come. Anything could be used as an "other factor", regardless of how bizarre or absurd, as long as it doesn't open the casino can of worms.
So it's perhaps not completely random, but my current experience (I hunt a mob that globals every minute in chat and I get nothing worth writing home about) tells me exactly this. :-) I can't affect this in any reasonable way, hence PE is gambling for me.
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So it's perhaps not completely random, but my current experience (I hunt a mob that globals every minute in chat and I get nothing worth writing home about) tells me exactly this. :-) I can't affect this in any reasonable way, hence PE is gambling for me.
That you "feel" you can not affect , do not mean you can not.

Just do a simple test , go hunt a crap mobs at wrong server for one week , and a good mob on the server for 1 week ... and tell me which is better for your ped card...
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well. i would say more often than not, i hof or global within 10 minutes after logging in, or when i get to a hunting spot ,within the first five kills, a lot of times even the first kill, i have also noticed this same pattern with people on my FL, they login and bam!! hof or global
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Wikipedia says about goldfish:

Some goldfish have been trained to swim through mazes, push a ball through a hoop, or even swim in a synchronized routine by their owners

So loot is not random, he who controls the fish, controls the loot!
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Definately not completely random.
There seem to be different loot cycles on creature basis, personal basis, time of day basis, skill basis, ammo spend basis, weapon basis, stuff TTed basis and blessing of Lootius basis.
Perception skill ups sometime semm to lead you directly to a mob with loot, but from personal experience they can also lead you to no looters.
Just because something feels random and like a "gamble" does not mean it is.
If one analyzes carefully his own patterns he can avoid big losses by not hunting on the "bad times". Being versatile in skills brings more opportunities to break even.

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I also dont believe in ramdom when i see global and hof happen in wave...
Hunt on "small" spot , so you can see most hunter around ...
You will see that 5 or 6 hunter of that area will global in 5 min ... then no one will global for 1 hour , and then again 5-7 global in 10 min , then nothing for 1 hour...

If it was ramdom that would be spread over time , and over the game ...

Something is sure , loot are area and time based...Only that fact kill the pure random tehorie.
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