Loot theories and superstitious thinking

[WoenK]

Originally Posted by falkao

don't think so. I'm pretty sure, that when nobody deposits, there would be also no loot

Not quite!
Since there are Ads running, some of the loot comes from them. There are simply not enough "sponsors" to make as all non-depositors

[Etopia]

Originally Posted by Dorsai

An active demonstration of the fact that the human animal will view random data and be convinced that they are in control of a random event.

Humans are very good at spotting "patterns".

We are also very good at spotting these patterns when there is no pattern to spot.

Eu members spot patterns in the loot all the time. Someone spotted canals on Mars. Case in point. No canals exist, but he saw them.

Superstition.
Mystic Smeg says "A person with a green car will win on the lotto tonight."

A person with a green car wins £10.
Wow wow wow. they sell their story to a news-paper.
I think "so not wow." There are thousands of people with green cars who buy lotto tickets. It would be a surprise if one of them did not win something.

Not all tehorie about loot are true... thats for sure... not all patern are right ... thats sure again...
But its not because som fool come with dumb idea , that evry tehorie are false.
Tehorie are just that tehorie , and need study , test ...

But , som have been proven to be true in the past...
When that stupid legion did post about the time area system , strangely , a new bug happen , and global was not displaying mobs maturity , or not diplayed at all...
Then when the global system was "fixed" , MA created mix of maturity in mobs spot , also they did spread many mobs over the game... so it became impossible to know what area was curently hoffing...

Now imagine a soc of 30 hunter , spread around game , with the traker system to know when they global ... plus the traker log position on map (P) ...
With such system , you can know , wish server is ready to hof...
Yes , its not hof guarantie for you , there is still som ramdom ... but you have more odd to hof when you are on the good server at good time , than on the wrong...

You believe in 100% ramdom ?
Go hunt on little close spot , try drone est jason ....
note hunter name... and you will see that global come in wave...
yes , som are out of the wave , ass all global are not triger only with time area.
Ramdom lol
chek where was find all the last DOA foeripper for exemple ... and come back tell me the odd such event happen in a true ramdon system.

[maxwellhawk]

Loot seems to be only distributed with relation to the amount of money available in game in relation to the amount of money needed to maintain the business model, leaving loot dispersion open ended according to what ever model they use to determine (random or non-random) loot drops.

[gix]

Originally Posted by Dorsai

An active demonstration of the fact that the human animal will view random data and be convinced that they are in control of a random event.

Humans are very good at spotting "patterns".

We are also very good at spotting these patterns when there is no pattern to spot.

Eu members spot patterns in the loot all the time. Someone spotted canals on Mars. Case in point. No canals exist, but he saw them.

Superstition.
Mystic Smeg says "A person with a green car will win on the lotto tonight."

A person with a green car wins £10.
Wow wow wow. they sell their story to a news-paper.
I think "so not wow." There are thousands of people with green cars who buy lotto tickets. It would be a surprise if one of them did not win something.

I totally agree. And in this vein let's also remember not to be amazed by coincidences either. Coincidences are bound to happen, indeed it'd be remarkable if they didn't!

[Witte]

As long as my supersticious loottheories give me profit I will stick with them . Yesterday I saw someone getting 2 globals on morsus. So I TP there, second mob I kill was a global, and in chat the person who had the first 2 had another one at the same moment. I just catched the last bit of the wave as after that loot sucked. Some more examples with thanks to ET:

Vlugge Witte Harrie Allophyl Provider 58 PED Monday, May 26, 2008 21:43
Vlugge Witte Harrie Allophyl Guardian 106 PED Monday, May 26, 2008 21:36

Vlugge Witte Harrie Feffoid Warrior 6526 PED Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:46
Vlugge Witte Harrie Feffoid Warrior 57 PED Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:44

Vlugge Witte Harrie Atrox Mature 130 PED Thursday, May 29, 2008 17:26
Vlugge Witte Harrie Atrox Mature 149 PED Thursday, May 29, 2008 17:16
Vlugge Witte Harrie Atrox Mature 130 PED Thursday, May 29, 2008 17:14
Vlugge Witte Harrie Atrox Mature 149 PED Thursday, May 29, 2008 17:04

Vlugge Witte Harrie Warrior Generation 02 63 PED Saturday, June 14, 2008 20:39
Vlugge Witte Harrie Warrior Generation 03 87 PED Saturday, June 14, 2008 20:38

Vlugge Witte Harrie Fungoid Mature 58 PED Sunday, June 15, 2008 13:26
Vlugge Witte Harrie Bristlehog Old Alpha 129 PED Sunday, June 15, 2008 13:24

This is from my latest 20 globlas. Random my ass

[schaefer13]

Originally Posted by Witte

Vlugge Witte Harrie Allophyl Provider 58 PED Monday, May 26, 2008 21:43
Vlugge Witte Harrie Allophyl Guardian 106 PED Monday, May 26, 2008 21:36
[...]

I can confirm these waves:

Tarjan Armin Arrakis Ambulimax Young 58 PED Saturday, May 31, 2008 01:36
Tarjan Armin Arrakis Ambulimax Young 78 PED Saturday, May 31, 2008 01:35
Tarjan Armin Arrakis Ambulimax Young 105 PED Saturday, May 31, 2008 01:32

I got these three globals after putting over 300 peds ammo into ambus, without nice loot.

But I don't get them regulary... :-(

Ciao, Armin

[Etopia]

Originally Posted by schaefer13

I got these three globals after putting over 300 peds ammo into ambus, without nice loot.

But I don't get them regulary... :-(

Ciao, Armin

No , but there is way to help get them...
You can for exemple try figure the way of the wave when you get one , and reproduce at next global.

For exemple you see the wave go E to W.
Next time you global , go som metter to W kill 1 or 2 mobs , and go W again...
You wont global at evry mobs , since there is many trigger , and its not so easy to walk on wave.
But for sure , if you hunt regulary in same spot , and figure out well the wave way , you will "often" have 2 global in row , or even 3.
So far my personal record is 4 global in row.

Ramdom , my ass

[BlackHawk]

My personal record is 10 in a row on big hogs with mit fapping me. I did nothing to get those. It was random. I just killed a big mob again and again and again. If you want me to do it again, I can't. I think loot is random. You never know what you get next, but is not randomly generated. Loot is random for viewer. Not for MA or for server. If it would be, it would be gambling. And is not.

[Immortal]

Originally Posted by BlackHawk

My personal record is 10 in a row on big hogs with mit fapping me. I did nothing to get those. It was random. I just killed a big mob again and again and again. If you want me to do it again, I can't. I think loot is random. You never know what you get next, but is not randomly generated. Loot is random for viewer. Not for MA or for server. If it would be, it would be gambling. And is not.

I think that the main confusion is that 'random' has different meanings for different people. "Statisticaly random" and "observably random" are completely different concepts, and I think Black Hawk provides a god summary.

I had similar ultra-spam recently with i-don't-know how many globals in 400 ped ammo. If I could do that day in day out I would be very very happy

[Etopia]

Originally Posted by Immortal

I had similar ultra-spam recently with i-don't-know how many globals in 400 ped ammo. If I could do that day in day out I would be very very happy

I do speak about global/hof in row , not a good hunt...
My point is 3 or 4 mobs give 3 or 4 global....
straight one after eatch other.

anyway , if you prefert think its random and go hunt what ever when ever , i am sure those who use "tehorie" to make profit in their hunt just love you.
The most you lose , the most other can win.

As long as my supersticious loottheories give me profit I will stick with them