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Old 06-19-2008, 19:30   #1
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MA is Strange in giving out Globals

I have been playing about 6 months and do mostly hunting. Tried to do a little minning but it got boring quick as I hardly ever got anything. I try to do about 400-500 ped hunting every day depending on the loot I get. If it is slow I do less and it is good I do more. Yesterday hunting was slow for me so I decided to go do a little minning, as a lark. I had about 25 points in total for all my mining skills. I bought 40 probs for e-matter. I dropped 20 at one place and got mostly oil but the return was about 6 or 7 ped, not bad for a noob. Moved to a new location and 2 probs later I got 128ped global (I think I had 11 skill points in e-matter mining). It gets better. I was telling my buddy about the gbl (he likes to mine but hasn't got squat lately and he has quite a few more skill points than I had but never got a gbl) and he got hot for mining so we went where I got the gbl and I bought 20 bombs and 20 probs. He was having a little success but not a lot. On my second bomb I hit a 114 gbl on gauzzerdite(something like that), which was the second one that day. Now I have about 300 skill points in mining. It just doesn't make any sense to me how that works execpt it has to be completly random. So my point is it doesn't matter skill level or whatever we can all global at anytime. As a side note my first gbl was a 657 ped HOF after about 6 weeks of playing and I didn't get another thing for 2 or 3 months after that.
Just thought I would share so all the noobs like me have hope.
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Well, i highly doubt it's all random, but i guess you should count yourself lucky you've been hitting those globals. Maybe MA is just trying to get you to spend all those PEDs from your globals and deposit more in hopes of getting more globals .

The high end miners don't really need the globals anyways, they can profit without them.

Well, keep up the lucky streak!
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just to let you know those kind of globals are quite rare, i have never had a hof of that size, biggest was 450ish ped, and ive been playing over a year now.

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Newbie here also

I'm with you on the "total random" loot system, globalled a few times, deposited some, sweated a lot, and all i've been seeing lately in soc globs/hofs, from people never depositing a cent just adds to my idea on it.

Gratz on your hof anyway, and GL
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I have been playing about 6 months and do mostly hunting. Tried to do a little minning but it got boring quick as I hardly ever got anything. I try to do about 400-500 ped hunting every day depending on the loot I get. If it is slow I do less and it is good I do more. Yesterday hunting was slow for me so I decided to go do a little minning, as a lark. I had about 25 points in total for all my mining skills. I bought 40 probs for e-matter. I dropped 20 at one place and got mostly oil but the return was about 6 or 7 ped, not bad for a noob. Moved to a new location and 2 probs later I got 128ped global (I think I had 11 skill points in e-matter mining). It gets better. I was telling my buddy about the gbl (he likes to mine but hasn't got squat lately and he has quite a few more skill points than I had but never got a gbl) and he got hot for mining so we went where I got the gbl and I bought 20 bombs and 20 probs. He was having a little success but not a lot. On my second bomb I hit a 114 gbl on gauzzerdite(something like that), which was the second one that day. Now I have about 300 skill points in mining. It just doesn't make any sense to me how that works execpt it has to be completly random. So my point is it doesn't matter skill level or whatever we can all global at anytime. As a side note my first gbl was a 657 ped HOF after about 6 weeks of playing and I didn't get another thing for 2 or 3 months after that.
Just thought I would share so all the noobs like me have hope.
Interesting to hear such tales.

Personally I see this rather differently to you though. It looks more to me that this is a result of EU not being random. The fact you had a good run just when you switched from your normal activity makes it likely to me it was a result of switching activity in some way that this occurred.

As to skill level, I do think skill and profession levels are relevant to loots too, but for sure a complete noob miner can hit an ATH.
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I think that globals and stuff are partially random but happens more for the skilled people.

I've been playing about 5-6 months now and my first global was on filters maybe 1 month after i started. Then i got about 130 ped lyst after 2 months or so and then i was quiet for a long time.

So one day i got bored and bought cold-ir just for the fun of it (didn't have the skills to use it efficiently and was totally bored with breers and wanted to hunt something bigger) and went to test it and BANG! 3600 ped drone gen 1 and that was maybe 3 months gaming.

Since then I've gained lots of skills in hunting,mining and crafting and I think I just started getting more globals last week. More like at the rate that my soc mates get em and they've played for years now.

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Personally I see this rather differently to you though. It looks more to me that this is a result of EU not being random.
I was thinking the same thing; when I get several globals in succession I assume I'm having a good day. When I log on the next day and get none on the same mob I assume I'm having a bad day.

The distribution of globals - and good loot in general - can get frustrating though. I recently had three globals in a row on consecutive mobs for the first time, it was great. The successive couple of hunts, in the same place and the same mob? I had absolutely dire loot but those around me were globalling regularly (it was at CP).

Not knowing whether you're going to have a good or bad run adds an element of "excitement" to what you're doing but some consistency sure would be nice (unless it was consistently terrible of course )
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Gratz on those nice finds. But for me I used to global all the time. Had several hofs mining too. But since my last hof, a 1445ped gazz which is my biggest to date I`ve done nothing but go downhill losing ped all the way. I`m now at the point where finding anything else in my storage to sell involves selling off equipment I use and don`t want to part with. In fact the stuff is`nt even in storage it`s stuff I carry all the time. Like MA`s way of telling me it`s time to deposit again. My problem is that it just seems like skills don`t matter for me anymore. After 2 and a half years in game and approaching mineral sense with almost as much skill in surveying as prospecting. For me I have been wondering for months now if skills really do matter. I`ve had a few globals but not nearly enough to stem the bleeding. On the other hand my friend and former disciple has been racking them up. I`ve tried switching ti hunting which worked for a week. I`ve tried mining different places. I just can`t find my stride again. MA sure is strange in giving them out. I just hope my next one is enough to recoup some of the losses I have taken since my high point was reached so I can get back to having some fun. Because I`m just running around like a noob again with a ped balance in single digits. I even started to sweat again. Forever noob!
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I personally think that nothing is random in this universe..

I'll explain my thought about it, basicly loot are already in mobs when they respawn or/and potential loot is bigger depending on the area where the mob is located which means anyone could kill any mob and hit the same value as anyone else if killed in the same area (may not be how it works but thats how i see it as mob have an identity number).

As for mining, your skills are usefull to max your finder/extractor, basicly every deposit are already under the ground BUT at different depth, which means an OF-105 could find stuff that a TT finder wouldn't as a TT finder could find stuff a tik120 wouldn't (have you ever tryed mining with 2 different finder and drop bomb with both ? you may find stuff the other finder didn't..)
There is a thread about finders and their ability to find ores/enmatter of different type..

In mining, 2 persons with different finders would find different stuff (could still find the same deposit if depth is supported by their finders) in the same area and their skills wont affect their finds, only the efficiency of their finder which at some point will be maxed and skill wont affect them anymore!

This how i think the system is working, nothing is given out to any avatar, just be at the right place at the right time with the good stuff, everything is left on eudoria by MA to be found

Some pray lootius, some pray themselves and wonder if they picked the right direction to go to and some just act without thinking and check what has be left to find, many player means many different way to deal with the game but the system is the same for everyone, right ?
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What we know MA has stated about loot:
- Not completly random (or else the governments would classify it as gamlbing and they haven't).
- Everyone has the same chance to the loot.
- There is no luck.

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